[Magdalen] Abjure

[Joseph Cirou]

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 14, 2018 10:17 AM
>To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Abjure
>
>Have you ever done any work on your genealogy, Joe? This sounds like
>something Henry Louis Gates, Jr. would find fascinating!
>
>On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Joseph Cirou <romanos at mindspring.com>
>wrote:
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>> Hi Allan,
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>> My grandfather had to abjure allegiance to the Republic of France even tho
>> the family had moved (temporarily I think) to Jersey and some relative had
>> gotten him a commission in the Navy (mid 1880's) But he didn't abjure Queen
>> Victoria. I don't know the full details but the tale is that he "ran away
>> to sea" at the age of 16 and landed in Halifax and the authorities didn't
>> see him since. So he made his way to Minnesota and fit in with the French
>> Canadian community and married a young lady from Hull (limerick alert--)
>> They tied the knot in 1896 but the names of his parents are absent in the
>> registry at St. Michael's in Stillwater, After he gained citizenship in
>> 1900 he took his family back to France and Jersey for a visit and aside
>> from some correspondence with a sister (hasn't been completely documented)
>> very little is known what happened among this branch of the Cirou's in
>> France since--tho we do have family and the name is known tho not that
>> common. I know enough to prove that it was not a variant of Sureau. Grandpa
>> always said it meant six wheels. Since one of his trades was a cook I
>> visualize him with several wheels of cheese (g)
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com>
>> >Sent: Jan 13, 2018 6:04 PM
>> >To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>> >Subject: [Magdalen] Abjure
>> >
>> >Back in the day when I became a US citizen, I was wearing a US Army
>> uniform and was not a Canadian citizen (there were no such things).
>> >
>> >I was an anonymous British Subject from somewhere or another on planet
>> Earth.
>> >I had no problem whatsoever in abjuring being a British Subject or giving
>> up any allegiance to whatever that was.
>> >
>> >Had there been such a thing as Canadian citizenship, I might have had
>> second thoughts, although I doubt it.
>> >
>> I have done extensive work on the genealogy of my adoptive family. My birth mother was Estelle Pouliot. I know that there are a lot of common French canadian roots between the Pouliot't the laFleur's or Poirier's dit La Fleur and the Milord's and their many ancestors that extend for all of us back to common ancestors in 17th century Quebec. I know didly about Estelle's liaison because my parents refused to tell me despite the recommendations of family friends and attorney's

Estelle Pouliot would be in her late  80's or early 90's There was a time when I would have been more likely to find a connection.

I'd love for Henry Lewis Gates to consider my situation.

My Irish (adoptive) great grandfather came to Kingston, Ontario in 1842 I have his parents. I have been doing genealogy on a serious basis since the 1980's. I've been looking for the connection between him and Tuloch O'Carolan the last of the blind Irish bards ( I don't think Estelle Pouliot was related to him)

My second (adoptive cousin) Sr (former Mother) Mary Eunice OSU had some letters from her cousin
Fr. Milord ( Iforget his first name)  I encountered my third (adoptive cousin) John Brebeuf Joseph Laviolette (Jahan dit Laviolette) in the mid 80's We became fast friends and he would visit often. He found his family through hard work of digging in Quebecois archives. He shared it with me. the Jahan's were minor nobility and one of them that had remained in France was guillotined in the French Revolition.  I don't think there is much of a connection between the Jahan's dit Laviolette and the Pouliot's but we all go back to those original imigrants. I found I was related to every one of the children of Zacharie and Jeanne Cloutier ( I forgot her maiden name, but I used to be able to recite the generations like Kunte Kite of  Roots.  I imagine that Estelle Pouliot also had some of these children in her ancesty.  As the French Canadians say, nous sommes tous cousins!