[Magdalen] The latest of Prayer Book Revision

[Ginga Wilder]

Thanks, John!
Ginga

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:06 PM John Robison <friarjohn00 at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is also, someplace in the depths of the resolutions, a D resolution
> that can be worked into this that has a Expansive language Eucharist I
> found rather nice. It has a role to play here.
> And, for the record: I'm monitoring GC79 for my own Church, and trying to
> make recommendations as to procedure for our National gatherings.
> And because I'm a Polity Geek and self abusive ... .
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for clarification, Chad.  I did know that about the availability
> of
> > ss marriages.  I am finding it difficult to follow GC79 -- too much going
> > on here and also in the two houses.
> >
> > Acutally, I agree with moving to translate new liturgies into the other
> > languages.  How awful for people to have to worship without a text...BCP
> is
> > a fine teaching tool and I'm glad it will be made available in several
> > other languages of TEC worshipers.  I was astounded to learn that
> speakers
> > of languages other than English were being so blatantly excluded.
> >
> > As you have explained, this seems like a good compromise.  I especially
> > 'love' that we can continue to use '79.  I especially appreciate the
> > baptismal service.  Especially this:
> > Heavenly Father, we thank you that by water and the Holy
> > Spirit you have bestowed upon *these* your servants the
> > forgiveness of sin, and have raised *them* to the new life of
> > grace. Sustain *them,* O Lord, in your Holy Spirit. Give *them*
> > an inquiring and discerning heart, the courage to will and to
> > persevere, a spirit to know and to love you, and the gift of joy
> > and wonder in all your works. *Amen*.
> >
> > Chad, thank you for putting the BCP online for us to use.  A true gift.
> >
> > Ginga
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:37 PM Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My reading is, maybe yes, maybe no. So - they may be part of a new
> Prayer
> > > Book, or they may continue to live in alternative services. Remember
> that
> > > another piece of legislation passed which says that same-sex marriage
> > > rites
> > > had to be available in all dioceses.
> > >
> > > The only really substantive I see in this legislation is that the 1979
> > BCP
> > > will remain in effect after a new Prayer Book comes out. That is, both
> > may
> > > be used, much as is currently the case in Canada and in the C of E. At
> > > least, that's the way I read it.
> > >
> > > Chad Wohlers
> > > Woodbury, VT USA
> > > chadwohl at satucket.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ginga Wilder
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:06 PM
> > > To: Magdalen
> > > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] The latest of Prayer Book Revision
> > >
> > > John, it is not clear to me from the wording that this 0084 will
> include
> > > same gendered marriage rites.  Can you clarify, please?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ginga Wilder
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:23 PM John Robison <friarjohn00 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The HoB sent this piece of substitute legislation to the HoD:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.vbinder.net/floor_amendments/84?house=hb&lang=en
> > > >
> > > > The Text:
> > > > Floor Amendment 0084 to resolution A068
> > > > Proposed by The Rt. Rev. C. Andrew Doyle
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, the House of Deputies concurring, That the 79th General
> > > > Convention, pursuant to Article X of the Constitution, authorize the
> > > > ongoing work of liturgical and Prayer Book revision for the future of
> > > God’s
> > > > mission through the Episcopal branch of the Jesus movement. And, that
> > it
> > > > do
> > > > so upon the core theological work of loving, liberating, life-giving
> > > > reconciliation and creation care; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, that our methodology be one of a dynamic process for
> > > discerning
> > > > common worship, engaging all the baptized, while practicing
> > > accountability
> > > > to The Episcopal Church; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That the 79th General Convention create a Task Force on
> > > > Liturgical and Prayer Book Revision (TFLPBR), the membership of which
> > > will
> > > > be jointly appointed by the Presiding Bishop and the President of the
> > > > House
> > > > of Deputies, and will report to the appropriate legislative
> > committee(s)
> > > > of
> > > > the 80th General Convention, ensuring that diverse voices of our
> church
> > > > are
> > > > active participants in this liturgical revision by constituting a
> group
> > > > with leaders who represent the expertise, gender, age, theology,
> > > regional,
> > > > and ethnic diversity of the church, to include, 10 laity, 10 priests
> or
> > > > deacons, and 10 Bishops; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That this Convention memorialize the 1979 Book of Common
> > > Prayer
> > > > as a Prayer Book of the church preserving the psalter, liturgies, The
> > > > Lambeth Quadrilateral, Historic Documents, and Trinitarian
> Formularies
> > > > ensuring its continued use; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That this church continue to engage the deep Baptismal and
> > > > Eucharistic theology and practice of the 1979 Prayer Book; and be it
> > > > further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That bishops engage worshiping communities in
> > experimentation
> > > > and the creation of alternative texts to offer to the wider church,
> and
> > > > that each diocese be urged to create a liturgical commission to
> > collect,
> > > > reflect, teach and share these resources with the TFLPBR; and be it
> > > > further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That the TFLPBR in consultation with the Standing
> Commission
> > > on
> > > > Structure, Governance, Constitution and Canons is directed to propose
> > to
> > > > the 80th General Convention revisions to the Constitution and Canons
> to
> > > > enable The Episcopal Church to be adaptive in its engagement of
> future
> > > > generations of Episcopalians, multiplying, connecting, and
> > disseminating
> > > > new liturgies for mission, attending to prayer book revision in other
> > > > provinces of the Anglican Communion; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That liturgical and Prayer Book revision will continue in
> > > > faithful adherence to the historic rites of the Church Universal as
> > they
> > > > have been received and interpreted within the Anglican tradition of
> > 1979
> > > > Book of Common Prayer, mindful of our existing ecumenical
> commitments,
> > > > while also providing space for, encouraging the submission of, and
> > > > facilitating the perfection of rites that will arise from the
> continual
> > > > movement of the Holy Spirit among us and growing insights of our
> > Church;
> > > > and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That such revision utilize the riches of Holy Scripture
> and
> > > our
> > > > Church’s liturgical, cultural, racial, generational, linguistic,
> > gender,
> > > > physical ability, class and ethnic diversity in order to share common
> > > > worship; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision utilize inclusive and
> expansive
> > > > language and imagery for humanity and divinity; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision shall incorporate and express
> > > > understanding, appreciation, and care of God’s creation; and be it
> > > > further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision take into consideration the
> use
> > > of
> > > > emerging technologies which provide access to a broad range of
> > liturgical
> > > > resources; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That the SCLM create a professional dynamic equivalence
> > > > translation of The Book of Common Prayer 1979 and the Enriching Our
> > > > Worship
> > > > Series in Spanish, French, and Haitian Creole; and that the SCLM
> > > diversify
> > > > the publication formats of new resources, liturgies and rites to
> > include
> > > > online publishing; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That this church ensure that, at each step of the revision
> > > > process, all materials be professionally translated into English,
> > > Spanish,
> > > > French, and Haitian Creole, following the principles of dynamic
> > > > equivalence
> > > > and that no new rites or liturgical resources be approved by this
> > church
> > > > until such translations are secured; and be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved, That the TFLPBR shall report to the 80th General
> Convention;
> > > > and
> > > > be it further*
> > > >
> > > > *Resolved*, *That there being $201,000 in the proposed budget for the
> > > > translation of liturgical materials, that the Executive Council be
> > > > encouraged to identify additional funds in the amount of $200,000 to
> > > begin
> > > > this liturgical revision.*
> > > > This replaces the more troubelsom (to many) A068 with a different
> > > process.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Rev. John R. Robison
> > > >
> > > > The Old Catholic Church, Provence of the United States.
> > > > www.TOCCUSA.org
> > > >
> > > > "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic
> > > > uninterestingness as an intellectual position." - John Updike
> > > >
> > > > "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's
> > life:
> > > > The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy
> > that
> > > > often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes,
> > > leading
> > > > to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to
> deal
> > > > with
> > > > the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."  ~John Rogers
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> The Rev. John R. Robison
>
> The Old Catholic Church, Provence of the United States.
> www.TOCCUSA.org
>
> "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic
> uninterestingness as an intellectual position." - John Updike
>
> "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life:
> The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that
> often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading
> to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with
> the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."  ~John Rogers
>