[Magdalen] DioVA convention

Tue Nov 6 15:01:06 UTC 2018

I was once again a delegate to our convention.  The only controversial
issue was putting teeth into the the requirement for audits.  The penalty
begins with loss of voice at convention and after three years results in
loss of seat, voice and vote, all of which can be appealed.

The biggest news from Western Michigan actually comes from the diocese of
Eastern Michigan.  They have requested that our Bishop, Whayne Hougland
become their provisional Bishop for the next three to five years.  Actually
our convention has no power in this issue.  It falls to the Standing
Committee and the Diocesan Council. Our convention did pass a resolution of
unanimously.  Interesting times/.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:29 AM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:

> Never been to a convention, never wanted to, and now never will. Reports of
> them were enough to jangle the nerves.
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:15 AM Rick Mashburn <ricklmashburn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Makes sense...especially with the drive being so short. There are parts
> of
> > our diocese that are 5+ hours apart.
> >
> > Peace, Rick
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 10:32 PM Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> > > One of our factors is that we have no overnight facility at all. We
> meet
> > at
> > > our cathedral in Philadelphia where nearby hotel space would be
> > > exorbitantly expensive. The geographical compactness of our diocese
> means
> > > that no one has to drive more than an hour and a half, if that, to get
> > > there. This lends to an attitude of wanting to get the business done in
> > the
> > > most expeditious manner possible. Educational opportunities do happen
> in
> > > our diocese, but by and large they are not combined with our annual
> > > convention business.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:05 PM Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Our convention is all day Friday and all day Saturday. Here's this
> > year's
> > > > schedule, which does include quite a few workshops. There are three
> > time
> > > > slots for workshops plus a brown-bag-lunch session. Ray Suarez,
> former
> > > NPR
> > > > talk-show host, will be keynote speaker and offer workshops.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.episcopalchicago.org/files/9815/4101/0414/Conv_Sched_for_Publishing_2018.pdf
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:01 PM Scott Knitter <
> scottknitter at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Diocese of Chicago has typically combined the Convention with a
> > > > > panoply of educational sessions, although this may have been
> reduced
> > in
> > > > > recent years. One year I attended four or five such sessions,
> > including
> > > > an
> > > > > introduction to centering prayer, a talk by the diocesan chancellor
> > > about
> > > > > legal issues vestry members need to be aware of, a session on
> > spiritual
> > > > > direction, and a couple of others. All of these were excellently
> > > > presented.
> > > > > These are scheduled in tracks at times when convention delegates
> can
> > > > attend
> > > > > without missing hearings or legislative sessions. I think
> Convention
> > > > > involves only one overnight stay lately; I can't remember if we
> > stayed
> > > > two
> > > > > nights back when.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:10 PM Christopher Hart <
> cervus51 at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'm always amazed to hear about diocesan conventions that last 3
> > days,
> > > > >> which implies two overnights even if the first and last days are
> > > > partials.
> > > > >> I wonder what they do with all that time. Our diocesan convention
> is
> > > > this
> > > > >> coming weekend and will begin with a Eucharist which will include
> > the
> > > > >> bishop's address on Friday evening, followed by a reception.
> > > Attendance
> > > > at
> > > > >> this portion of the convention is not recorded. All of the
> business
> > > will
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> conducted on Saturday between 8:30 am and 4:00 pm with an hour
> and a
> > > > half
> > > > >> lunch break. My amazement is also mixed with a degree of envy that
> > > these
> > > > >> dioceses have such extended time in their life together as a body.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 5:11 PM cady soukup <cadyasoukup at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Back from the Diocese of Virginia convention (Nov 1-2-3).
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Bishop Shannon Johnston resigned (retired). A Bishop Provisional
> > was
> > > > >> > not found in time for the convention, so Bishop Susan Goff is
> the
> > > > >> > diocese's ecclesial authority for the interim. There were
> bishops
> > > > >> > interested in the "Bishop Provisional" position (list provided
> by
> > > > >> > Bishop Curry's office) but they were not in a position to up-end
> > > their
> > > > >> > lives and move to Richmond, VA in time for the convention. If
> > > needed,
> > > > >> > Bishop Susan was given the authority to appoint an Assistant
> > Bishop
> > > > >> > (temporary, requires the approval of the Standing Committee) to
> > > handle
> > > > >> > visitations and general work. Bishops Bob Ihloff and Ted Gulick
> > > > >> > continue (both part-time, both have consistently "failed" at
> full
> > > > >> > retirement).
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > An interesting convention. The diocese continues, is in the
> midst
> > of
> > > > >> > several ambitious initiatives and missions, and has "business
> > > process"
> > > > >> > housekeeping to do. It sounds as though the diocesan office has
> > not
> > > > >> > updated its business processes for about 3 bishops worth of
> > tenure.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I am always delighted to see the full diversity of those who
> > proudly
> > > > >> > self-identify as Episcopalian, from young to old, lay,
> > > deacons/clergy
> > > > >> > and bishops, outrageous and staid. 7 bishops from USA, England,
> > and
> > > > >> > Ghana robed up for Eucharist on Friday.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > We have been strongly encouraged to follow Bishop Curry's "Way
> of
> > > Love
> > > > >> > Rule of Life" https://www.episcopalchurch.org/explore-way-love
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Still working out what just happened - a lot of information in a
> > > short
> > > > >> > few days!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > hugs anyway - Cady
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Christopher Hart
> > > > >>
> > > > >> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> > > > >> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> > > > >> Twitter: @cervus51
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Scott R. Knitter
> > > > > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Scott R. Knitter
> > > > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Christopher Hart
> > >
> > > List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> > > Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> > > Twitter: @cervus51
> > >
> >
>

-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
Western Michigan