[Magdalen] DioVA convention

[Ann Markle]

In the two dioceses I have served, the pro audit requirement was also based
on budget size. Smaller parishes had an in-house audit committee, more
recently with one member from outside the parish, and the diocese maintains
a list of volunteers to be “outside” members.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:14 AM Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Broadly speaking iIn the diocese of Toronto, If our revenue is over $100K
> we must have a pro audit.  Otherwise we can have a qualified accountant do
> it.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Scott Knitter
> Sent: November 7, 2018 9:08 AM
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] DioVA convention
>
> We get a pro audit yearly. For some years when I was on the vestry, the
> auditors called for more precision on asset values and depreciation data.
> The treasurer at the time was excellent with everything else and had
> reasons why he did the assets and depreciation the way he did, but I'm glad
> the outside standard eventually prevailed.
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:32 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This has been somewhat loosely interpreted in our Diocese. Some small
> > parishes have trouble affording a formal professional audit. I think an
> > audit can be done in-house, with a professional audit every so many
> > years—three, maybe. When I arrived at the two mission congregations I
> > served some years ago, one of them hadn’t had an audit or turned in an
> > audit report for more than ten years.
> >
> > > On Nov 6, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 06/11/2018 15:01, Judy Fleener wrote:
> > >> I was once again a delegate to our convention.  The only controversial
> > >> issue was putting teeth into the the requirement for audits.  The
> > penalty
> > >> begins with loss of voice at convention and after three years results
> in
> > >> loss of seat, voice and vote, all of which can be appealed.
> > >
> > > Is that a reference to parishhes needing to have their accounts
> > professionally audited? If so I am surprised that the secular authorities
> > don't require this already.
> > >
> > > Roger
> >
>
>
> --
> Scott R. Knitter
> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>
> --
Ann

The Rev. Ann Markle
Buffalo, NY
www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com