[Magdalen] To Lay and To Lie.

[Grace Cangialosi]

The worse one for me is “Me and him [verb]..... I don’t know what’s worse than fingernail n a chalkboard, but that would qualify!

Of course, it has occurred to me that that image of fingernails on a chalkboard is rapidly becoming totally incomprehensible to younger generations...  “Chalkboard?”

> On Apr 20, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Grammar is fluid. It does not, and should not be mate to, con form to the
> rules of Latin. And the more people there are who speak English as a
> second, although a second *official* language (think Indian English) the
> more fluid it will become.
> 
> The one thing that still drives me absolutely nuts, though, and I freely
> admit it, is "between you and I". Fingernails on a chalkboard!!
> 
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 5:04 PM cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The people I interact with each day seem totally unable to handlethe "to
>> lay" and "to lie" differentiation.  The same is true with written
>> materialthat I read regularly.  I realize there is overlapping of these
>> verb forms.I suppose that there is little hope this situation will change
>> because 90%
>> of English speakers in this area confuse the verbs and the majority of
>> thepopulation never hears them used in the traditional grammatical way.
>> I suppose, since users/confusers of these verbs seem to communicatequite
>> well despite the grammar "problem," we will find that this mattergoes down
>> the path of the "who/whom" confusion, where grammarians havegiven up
>> completely.
>> And another verb irregularity:
>> In this region, there is a situation in which a majority of the population
>> rarelyemploys the third person singular of the verb, "to do."
>> "Does/doesn't" isalmost absent. Does turns up in such as "He does play the
>> piano,"  But the
>> in negative usage, it reverts back to "He don't play the piano."
>> I guess I should chalk it up to the evolving English language.
>> 
>> David Strang.
>>