[Magdalen] To Lay and To Lie.

[Judy Fleener]

I am feeling at home here in this conversation.

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 4:25 AM Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> All of the aforementioned usages drive me mad.  I’m not the grammar
> police, but without rules all is chaos, never mind if the language is in
> flux. Change is inevitable, but not on all fronts and all at once!
>
> Marion, a pilgrim, luxuriating in The Day of Resurrection
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Grace Cangialosi
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:58 PM
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] To Lay and To Lie.
>
> Oh gosh, I hadn’t thought about that for a long time! I may have been
> spelling them the same way...
>
> > On Apr 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I’m sorry, but I refuse to give up on the distinction between who and
> whom.
> > I also bemoan the other justified complaints in this thread. One of my
> pet
> > peeves lately is people who don’t know that discreet and discrete are two
> > entirely different words that merely sound alike. This, of course, is
> > mainly a problem in written English.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 5:04 PM cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The people I interact with each day seem totally unable to handlethe "to
> >> lay" and "to lie" differentiation.  The same is true with written
> >> materialthat I read regularly.  I realize there is overlapping of these
> >> verb forms.I suppose that there is little hope this situation will
> change
> >> because 90%
> >> of English speakers in this area confuse the verbs and the majority of
> >> thepopulation never hears them used in the traditional grammatical way.
> >> I suppose, since users/confusers of these verbs seem to communicatequite
> >> well despite the grammar "problem," we will find that this mattergoes
> down
> >> the path of the "who/whom" confusion, where grammarians havegiven up
> >> completely.
> >> And another verb irregularity:
> >> In this region, there is a situation in which a majority of the
> population
> >> rarelyemploys the third person singular of the verb, "to do."
> >> "Does/doesn't" isalmost absent. Does turns up in such as "He does play
> the
> >> piano,"  But the
> >> in negative usage, it reverts back to "He don't play the piano."
> >> I guess I should chalk it up to the evolving English language.
> >>
> >> David Strang.
> >>
> > --
> >
> > Christopher Hart
> >
> > List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> > Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> > Twitter: @cervus51
>
>

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Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
Western Michigan