[Magdalen] Salve Regina.

[Marion Thompson]

.... (involuntary Send)  He had opposed the proposal that I pursue the
Diaconate in that congregation.  This from the Coordinator of Deacons in
our Diocese.

Sigh, So much water under so many bridges.

Marion, a pilgrim

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:03 PM Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This brings to mind an encounter I had back in the 90's with our then
> associate priest.  I had been reading Spong's 'Rescuing the Bible from the
> Fundamentalists' and asked in all innocence who had decided which books
> should be included in the New Testament.  Whoa!  He went up one side of me
> and down the other, that I should even think of asking such a question!
>  And reading Spong, too!!!!!!!!!! Some years later he had retired to New
> England somewhere and had jumped ship and joined the ACNA.  He was a mad
> dog with  a really short fuse if one was the least bit critical of any
> Republican.  I found out many eyars later than he had opposed the proposal
> that
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:31 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The "canonical New Testament" as we know it now was not accepted until 367
>> AD, well after the time of Jesus, by which time what you are calling
>> "legend" (and what we Orthodox call tradition) was pretty firmly accepted
>> by many Christians. Debates over what was and is important continue into
>> the present day, in light of comparatively recent discovery of ancient
>> texts (Nag Hammadi, etc.) and re-interpretation of gnostic Gospels. So
>> there's that.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:52 AM Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Fine -- but we should recognize that these are just legends, pious
>> > legends maybe, but legendary all the same.
>> >
>> > Mary's role in the story of Jesus is clear -- she was his mother, who
>> > gave him birth ad raised him to adulthood. She seems to have not
>> > entirely agreed with his preaching and healing ministry, but she was
>> > present at his death.
>> >
>> > And that's about it. Everything else is legend and later invention, or
>> > else was considered so unimportant that it was not recorded in the
>> > canonical New Testament.
>> >
>> > simon
>> >
>> > On 2019-08-19 18:52, ME Michaud wrote:
>> > > There is also a tradition that she was one of the children set to
>> weave
>> > > the
>> > > curtain of the temple (the one that was rent when Jesus died). The
>> > > Gnostic
>> > > gospels are full of this stuff.
>> > >
>> > > In a world where women bore and lost children throughout their lives,
>> > > the
>> > > rending of the woven veil is a powerful image.
>> > >
>> > > Re: Mary as described in the Book of Revelation, there are probably a
>> > > thousand images that portray her in this way, medieval, renaissance
>> and
>> > > even pre-raphaelite IIRC.
>> > > -M
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon Kershaw
>> > simon at kershaw.org.uk
>> > St Ives, Cambridgeshire
>> >
>>
>