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“Pious fiction”—great term!

> On Aug 22, 2019, at 4:18 AM, Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk> wrote:
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> It's true that the canon was not finally established until Nicaea. But it wasn't all that fluid beforehand I think. It was pretty well established which books were reputable and which weren't. It's pretty obvious that some of the NT apocrypha are just pious fiction.
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> simon
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>> On 2019-08-21 18:31, Jay Weigel wrote:
>> The "canonical New Testament" as we know it now was not accepted until 367
>> AD, well after the time of Jesus, by which time what you are calling
>> "legend" (and what we Orthodox call tradition) was pretty firmly accepted
>> by many Christians. Debates over what was and is important continue into
>> the present day, in light of comparatively recent discovery of ancient
>> texts (Nag Hammadi, etc.) and re-interpretation of gnostic Gospels. So
>> there's that.
>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:52 AM Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk> wrote:
>>> Fine -- but we should recognize that these are just legends, pious
>>> legends maybe, but legendary all the same.
>>> Mary's role in the story of Jesus is clear -- she was his mother, who
>>> gave him birth ad raised him to adulthood. She seems to have not
>>> entirely agreed with his preaching and healing ministry, but she was
>>> present at his death.
>>> And that's about it. Everything else is legend and later invention, or
>>> else was considered so unimportant that it was not recorded in the
>>> canonical New Testament.
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> Simon Kershaw
> simon at kershaw.org.uk
> St Ives, Cambridgeshire