[Magdalen] [Magdale

[John Robison]

To be more blunt: The ABA style “treatment” assumes those of us on the
spectrum are defective to the point that we should be tortured into
behaving.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:19 AM Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> "We just don't know" is hard to accept, and it isn't surprising that
> absent certainty about causes people cling to hypotheses about cause that
> are unproven or disproven.  At best, autism "treatment" addresses
> behavioral manifestations but not the poorly understood autism spectrum
> disorders themselves.
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> On May 30, 2019 10:11 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > What I find appalling is that people who should know better,  like
> Robert Kennedy’s son (Joseph?), are still spreading this misinformation!
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> > > On May 30, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
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> > > Roger, "ignorant" doesn't begin to express the folly of believing that
> vaccines can cause autism.  I do believe that the mistrust of government
> sponsored research is close kin to the belief that Trump would be the Fixer
> In Chief and indeed that he is Doing a Good Job.  (And unlike his NWord
> predecessor is Telling It Like It Is)_
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> > > Sent from my Jitterbug
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> > >> On May 30, 2019 4:48 PM, Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
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> > >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48468801
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> > >> This story on the BBC news site saddens me. In 2000 the USA was
> declared
> > >> effectively measles-free. Less than two decades later ignorant (and I
> > >> use that adjective advisedly) parents are endangering that status.
> There
> > >> are some individual children who, for valid medical reasons, should
> not
> > >> receive the vaccination but the parents of the rest owe it to them,
> > >> surely, to maintain "herd immunity" by having their children
> vaccinated.
> > >> The suggestion that the MMR vaccination can lead to autism has been
> > >> debunked as being a fraudulent claim based on seriously flawed
> methodology.
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> > >> In the interests of complete disclosure my son (born 1978) had
> childhood
> > >> asthma so his mother and I were concerned about the dangers of the
> > >> whooping cough vaccination. Our doctor spoke with us and pointed out
> the
> > >> balance of risk between vaccination and non-vaccination so he
> received
> > >> the vaccination. He was also vaccinated against measles but still
> > >> developed the disease with complications including vomiting. Might it
> > >> have been worse without the vaccination? I don't know but I do know
> the
> > >> importance of reducing the incidence of diseases from being endemic
> in
> > >> an area with life-threatening implications for the more vulnerable.
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> > >> We owe it to our neighbours, whom we are enjoined to love.
> > >>
> > >> Roger
> > >>
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-- 
The Rev. John R. Robison

The Old Catholic Church, Provence of the United States.
www.TOCCUSA.org

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uninterestingness as an intellectual position." - John Updike

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life:
The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that
often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading
to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with
the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."  ~John Rogers