[Magdalen] Eucharistic prayer
Simon Kershaw
simon at kershaw.org.uk
Mon Oct 21 14:00:29 UTC 2019
Surely not "aphiemi" but "anamnesin"?
ποιεῖτε εἰς τὴν ἐμὴν ἀνάμνησιν
I'm definitely not a scholar of Koine Greek or of the NT, but
"anamnesis" is about memory -- the word is a double negative
an-a-mnesis, literally "not forgetting", though quite possibly carrying
a stronger meaning than that.
simon
On 2019-10-21 14:43, James Handsfield wrote:
> Remembrance is translated from the Koine word (transliterated) afiémi
> that Paul used in I Corinthians 11:25-26. Perhaps a better
> translation might be ‘recall’, but not recall to mind; rather like a
> supervisor recalling employees to a specific location. In Greek, as
> in Koine, this is a word without tense. It’s hard for English and
> other western languages to understand this because they are linear
> languages, while Greek is not. Being tenseless without time or space,
> we can think of this as returning, in kairos, to be with Christ at the
> moment he made the proclamations about his body and blood.
>
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> Jim Handsfield
> jhandsfield at att.net
>
>> On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Picking up on this one point from Scott ...
>>
>> I too have heard this ("re-membering") suggested from the pulpit and
>> read it elsewhere.
>>
>> Whilst it might be thought a nice sermon illustration, I think we
>> should be careful about any suggestion that this is the meaning of
>> "remembrance" and "remembering", because it simply isn't. The word
>> derives not from "member" but from "memory", the intruded "b" being an
>> artefact of the development of English pronunciation.
>>
>> So literally it means a deliberate act of bringing something into the
>> memory, a deliberate act of recall.
>>
>> As for "member" -- did you know that the earliest recorded meaning in
>> English in the OED, circa 1300, refers to the genitals? The earliest
>> reference in English to it meaning other body parts (such as the
>> tongue or the limbs) is 1384 in Wyclif's bible, where it is also used
>> figuratively of us as members of the body of Christ. Having said that,
>> the OED also suggests that all these meanings were already present in
>> the Latin "membrum".
>>
>> Anyway -- completely different words, even if useful as an
>> aide-memoire.
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Simon Kershaw
simon at kershaw.org.uk
St Ives, Cambridgeshire
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