[Magdalen] Tuition

[Scott Knitter]

I think you're right about Lincoln Park, Judy. Whenever Chicago Magazine or
the Tribune does a photo feature on someone's sumptuous mansion that covers
a whole city block, it's usually in Lincoln Park, on Belding or Orchard
avenues usually. Just south of there is Gold Coast, with "old money," and
where our billionaire (yet good) governor has a couple of houses. Lake
Shore Drive has the highest-end apartments and is where Oprah lived for a
while, near Oak Street Beach.

We moved from Near North (Old Town), between Gold Coast and Cabrini Green
(!), to get more space for less money. We're still not paying as much as we
did down there, but I do miss having 2 bathrooms. When a guest visited,
they could have a bedroom and en suite bathroom. Here we have to share (and
don't really have good space for a guest...we've "lived into" all the
space). Now we have to inflate an air mattress for one of us so we can give
the guest a bedroom. And tell the guest not to leave the bathroom doors
closed because a cat will meow everyone up to open them.

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:07 AM Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com> wrote:

> I paid no tuition at Northern Illinois University in the "olden days".
> Tuition was $65 a semester, I paid $5.
>
> My granddaughter is a senior at DePaul in Chicago. I have no idea what she
> and my son pay.  It is hefty.  She has a great idea for a job for school
> this year.  She has always made money babysitting and belongs to a baby
> sitting combine with a number of families and sitters.  Most of Chicago's
> schools will be online.  She will offer tutoring for primary grades in
> their homes.  The first day she posted a notice about her tutoring
> service she had 15 responses. DePaul is in Lincoln Park and Eryn lives in
> Wrigleyville. I think Lincoln park may be the highest priced real estate in
> Chicago.  Scott can give me better information on that.
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>
> > It's an issue this side of the pond as well. Back in the day (1965-68) I
> > got a grant from the local authority which covered all tuition plus a
> > sum that (with parentyal contribution) was expected to cover maintenance
> > costs. Having a paid job in term-time was strongly discouraged. The
> > arrangement differ in the four constituent nations of the United Kingdom
> > but here in England tuition is a maximum of 9,250 GBP (currently $12,066
> > in US terms). There are loans for this (and poossibly a bit towards
> > maintenance) which are repayable from income tax after graduation and
> > wiped after 30 years.
> >
> > It is recognized that a significant proportion of students will never
> > pay back all their loan. Having said that a number of studies have shown
> > that some degree courses do not offer a positive financial payback over
> > a lifetime's earnings. The tuition fee was introduced with much vaunting
> > of the "graduate premium" in earnings which some of us doubted at the
> > time. It coincided with a significant increase in the number of
> > degree-awarding courses so the normal rules of supply and demand
> > applied. The government's aim was that most young people would go to
> > university which I always thought was a misbegotten idea. Increasing the
> > proportion of young people going to university inevitably means lowering
> > the bar for university admission and some would find it beyond them and
> > drop out with a sense of failure. Their skills lie in other areas and it
> > would have been better for them if they had gone straight from school
> > into somthing that offered more appropriate training. We are always
> > going to need plumbers. electricians, hairdressers, builders, etc.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On 12/08/2020 14:08, cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
> > > I'm feeling really old to hear my neighbors discuss the cost of sending
> > their kids tocollege.  For example, the neighbor boy who attends the
> Notre
> > Dame branch locally(Kings, Wilkes-Barre) is paying $20,000 per year..
> > State colleges for residentsare a bit less, but still hefty.  If memory
> > serves me, my freshman year at UW-Madison for my resident status was$89
> per
> > semester ('55 - '56)..  By the time I got my bachelor's degree four years
> > later, thecost had increased to $225 oer semester.  Room and board for a
> > year in theWisconsin dormitories was $680 in 1955 - 1956 and $850  my
> > undergraduate senior year.  Then UW Medical School was $1,200 per
> senester,
> > but it fell to $600 medical schoolsenior year semester because they paid
> us
> > for drawing all the bloods at UW Medical Center.  I had a good summer job
> > with the Wisconsin Highway Department, and paid for mostof the expense of
> > tuition plus room and board.  I had no student debt.  This is all ancient
> > history.  These current kids will have all this expense and NO
> > FOOTBALL.  David Strang.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Hope is a thing with feathers that perches in the soul.
> Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
> Western Michigan
>


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Scott R. Knitter
Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA