[Magdalen] testing w/ a new ISP

Marion Thompson marionwhitevale at gmail.com
Wed Dec 10 22:56:56 UTC 2014


Back in 1993 when my department became hardwired, I saw a print-out 
showing many  (all the?) lists one could join.  Starting at A, it 
happened that Anglican at american.edu or some such  caught my eye and I 
joined, thereby changing my life.  Very shortly after, I was referred to 
Luti, a whole other wonderful group of people. Eventually Anglican 
became Magdalen in my life and I'm still around.

Facebook is different.   I have at times bared my soul in the Pub in a 
way I would never dream of doing on FB.  People pay attention or don't, 
but I have sometimes been able to release some pressure and maybe be 
uplifted by friends here.  And I have certainly spent memorable time in 
the company of some of you face to face. Terrific memories!

Marion, a pilgrim
On 12/10/2014 12:26 AM, Jon Egger wrote:
> Yes, Jim, thank you for that history.  I agree with you, Christopher, that
> this is my cyber home pub.
>
> My wish is that more lurkers post.  We're good company, but it would be
> awesome to hear more voices in the pub.
>
>
> +++
> Grace & peace,
> jon
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this history lesson, Jim. It is exactly what recall knowing,
>> although I was never on Anglican-L and only marginally on St. Sams. My
>> first real participation (other than the Bishops/Deputies list that Louie
>> Crew created) was on St. Bedes. Coincidentally it was
>> Louie who introduced me to that list. When it began to collapse someone
>> (Raewynne Whiteley, I think) pointed me to Magdalen for which I have been
>> eternally grateful. This is my cyber home pub.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Access to the pub was never by invitation or application only.  It’s just
>>> that we were small and didn’t broadcast that we were there.
>>>
>>> Maybe it’s time to recite some of the history.
>>>
>>> As most remember, it all started with Anglican-L hosted by American
>>> University.  Charles Smith was the owner operator.
>>>
>>> When American University decided to no longer host Anglican-L, Charles
>>> started up his own ISP, Dragon.com <http://dragon.com/>, and created St.
>>> Sam’s.  As has been noted, there were some difficulties with the
>>> management, and St. Bede’s was created, this time with a ‘vestry’ to
>> govern
>>> the list.  The problem was that the vestry members came from all over,
>> and
>>> rarely were they all on line at the same time.
>>>
>>> That, too, descended to having a lot of petty scraps, and when it looked
>>> like the list was going to fail, several of us (Molly Wolf, Mary Jane
>>> Anderson of blessed memory, Gillian Barr, and I decided to set up a new
>>> list.  After a lot of discussion we chose the concept of a pub.  Tony
>>> Clavier provided the Anglican underpinnings for us, and we decided to
>> name
>>> it Magdalen’s Rose and Compass, Magdalen being George Herbert’s mother,
>> and
>>> the compass from the Anglican Communion logo.
>>>
>>> Molly paid a small amount for a server that Brian Reid set up for us.  He
>>> also guided us in the best ways to operate an email list, and following
>> his
>>> guidance we created the publican system with three publicans (Mary Jane,
>>> Gillian, and me - Molly opted out).  Each publican would have equal
>>> authority although I took the title of publican with Mary Jane and
>> Gillian
>>> taking the titles of assistant publicans.  In reality we were equals.
>>>
>>> We never looked to be a large list, but one where no topic was
>> proscribed,
>>> but where any discussion would be carried out respectfully, following the
>>> statement derived from the Baptismal Covenant:  Strive for justice and
>>> peace among all people and respect the dignity of every human being.
>> That
>>> turned out to be a pretty good formula.  We had our trials from time to
>>> time, but Maddies has remained a safe place to stop in, have a libation
>> of
>>> one’s choice, and there the company.
>>>
>>> Chad and Sally are doing an excellent job of maintaining the list with
>>> their own ways that they’ve developed.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
>>>
>>> Jim Handsfield
>>> jhandsfield at att.net <javascript:;>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>> Then someone told me about Maddie's, which at that point was by
>>> invitation or application only.
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher Hart
>>
>> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
>> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
>> Twitter: @cervus51
>>



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