[Magdalen] Conservatives Chafe Under Francis

[Lynn Ronkainen]

> So I'm guessing that the point was that the phrase, which used to have a
> note of finality, no longer applies.

Or maybe it's now a case of 'pushing the offering envelope'?  <gdr>

L

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single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
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From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:47 AM
To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Conservatives Chafe Under Francis

> Okeydokey.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things 
> better
> for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your 
> time
> on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <ichthys89 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> James, that phrase, in Latin, is a very Roman Catholic saying that infers
>> that Rome/the pope IS the final word, close the book.
>>
>> I think it was originally posted here to show that time has certainly
>> changed some things because 40 years or so ago, RC bishops would not have
>> dared to publically have a difference of opinion, much less voice it, or
>> belabor it once 'Rome had spoken'.
>>
>> Lynn, .02ingly posting as she shuts down the computer for the night.
>>
>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>
>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
>> not
>> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave 
>> me."
>> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>
>> Thomas Merton writes, “People may spend their whole lives climbing the
>> ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the ladder 
>> is
>> leaning against the wrong wall.”
>>
>> "What you seek is seeking you." - Rumi
>>
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>> From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:28 AM
>> To: "cantor03" <Cantor03 at aol.com>; "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <
>> magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Conservatives Chafe Under Francis
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/4/2014 11:59:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> One more  time, and in a language understanded of the people, 
>>>> please.>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's useful to know that great little phrase that comes in handy from
>>>> time
>>>> to time, and that contains that word:
>>>>
>>>> "Roma locuta est; causa est finita."  ("Rome has spoken; the  case is
>>>> closed.").
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Oh my. I didn't know the man has a secretary to answer his mail.  How
>>> very
>>> convenient for him.
>>>
>>> So, having read what you wrote, I have to ask (a) what do the phrases
>>> actually mean, and (b) what is the problem with putting it in simple
>>> English anyway?
>>>
>>> I don't see how what you have written, relates to my question, with all
>>> due
>>> respect. I think this is a good illustration of how it's just as well to
>>> say what you actually mean.
>>>
>>> In my experience, members of tec are great in so many ways, but they 
>>> fight
>>> tooth and nail to avoid saying what precisely they mean, and it has 
>>> always
>>> left me scratching my head.
>>>
>>>
>>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>>> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things
>>> better
>>> for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your
>>> time
>>> on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>