[Magdalen] Christ, the King

James Oppenheimer-Crawford oppenheimerjw at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 18:07:20 UTC 2014


Folks often foist titles on their heroes that the heroes don't want.

Elvis was often called the King, and he absolutely rejected it.

"There can only be one King," he said.

But be that as it may, I don't think king is a good term for the man from
Nazareth, who never aspired to such silly things.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> The men writing that stuff always thought of god as a chieftain or king,
> and ascribed to god all the disgusting habits appended thereto. I doubt
> Jesus wanted to be called the King.
>
> that does affirm some aspects of his power to whup them that are agin him,
> but it doesn't really do much for me. It sort of assumes that after Jesus
> gets his mission accomplished he suddenly becomes this warrior king like
> they talk about in Revelation.  Meh.
>
> If he was genuine in what he was while on earth, it follows that he is
> unchanged, and this fits the model of the servant god. The god-king causes
> too many problems. It's probably utterly wrong, and is so easily explained
> by the need of those writers to fill in what they "knew" Jesus or god would
> be like.
>
> Just like all that nonsense in the OT that ought not to even be in the
> Bible that portrays god as wiping out while cities and tribes just because.
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things
> better for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting
> your time on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just read Val Fizzell's meditation on Christ the King and the parable of
>> the sheep and goats.
>>
>> Something new struck me...Val mentioned that when a King ascended the
>> throne (including recent history in Britain) he would take a new name to
>> signify power and authority e.g. "George VI" instead of "Albert".
>>
>> So Jesus is given a name, greater and more powerful than any other, before
>> which every knee will bow - the typical triumphalist picture so familiar
>> to
>> most of us especially those with Evangelical backgrounds. He is Lord and
>> King.
>>
>> But wait a minute...when is Jesus given his Royal name? According to
>> Scripture, before he was born, when Mary is told by the angel, "You shall
>> call his name, Jesus" (Luke) - or in Matthew's version, as Joseph is told
>> to give Mary's child this name, "for he shall save his people".
>>
>> So when is he named, King? Not when he comes on the clouds, with angels,
>> or
>> is seen by everyone as seated on the Throne of Heaven, but as he comes to
>> Mary's womb - without fanfare, but for the mysterious joy of angels and
>> the
>> ecstatic prophecy of a teenage girl. Or at the latest, on the occasion of
>> his birth in a humble setting.
>>
>> Food for thought about our many projections of "Christ the King" based on
>> notions of earthly power and lordship!
>>
>> Sally D
>>
>
>


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