[Magdalen] GTS
Molly Wolf
lupa at kos.net
Wed Oct 1 21:09:23 PDT 2014
Amen, Raewynne. I took some courses at Queen's Theological College before it folded its tents, and I can assure anyone that "y'all come on over for Morning Prayer" wouldn't have worked because the students were already so busy -- and QTS, as a United Church seminary, didn't have as great a need for liturgical workouts as an Episcopalian or Anglican school would have. In fact, our own clergy (now largely Wycliffe College grads) often haven't had good liturgical (or pastoral!) formation.
Also, any use of the word "whining" automatically puts my back up.
Molly
The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -- Mark Twain
> On Oct 1, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Raewynne Whiteley <raewynne1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think a significant issue here was that the change of worship from the
> prior pattern meant a change of class times as well, which in combination
> wit things like daycare schedule (at the seminary daycare) means that it
> would be very difficult for the seminarians to find a time that would work
> for them to do it in community,
>
> I have no strong association with GTS, but I have t admit that I was
> concerned when we received an email at the church address from the seminary
> defending the Trustees' perspective. We happen to be in the same area
> (suburban NY) but this parish does not provide financial support - so we
> are really outsiders. I think it was inappropriate to broadcast this, and
> reflected poorly on the trustees and seminary administration. Better would
> have been something like "You may have heard about some difficulties
> currently being experienced at GTS. Please keep the students, faculty,
> staff, dean and trustees in your prayers."
>
> Raewynne
>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:21 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> But it's not as if, by un-scheduling MP, the students were then
>> not *permitted* to read MP.
>>
>> If the students and/or faculty wanted to read MP, they could.
>> A message on the bulletin board, a facebook page, all user
>> message, y'all come.
>>
>> Thousands of us do this daily, or nearly daily, you know.
>>
>> This whining about canceled services is most disheartening,
>> especially in light of the fact that we're talking about
>> seminarians. PRAY, dammit! Don't wait for an invitation
>> or permission or a schedule to adhere to. Sheesh. Pray in
>> defiance of the rules if you must.
>> -M
>>
>> Compline has something to say to these people, if they
>> can hear it:
>> Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls
>> around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
>>
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