[Magdalen] permission to die with dignity
Heather Angus
hangus at ctcn.net
Fri Oct 17 03:40:44 UTC 2014
Sorry, but I see it as a very slippery slope if written into law.
Heather
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yes, I read that post too, Eleanor. I didn't name her because I didn't
> know if she would want me to do that. But she is remarkable.
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Eleanor Braun <eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I know the priest of whom Grace speaks. In fact we sat next to each
> other
> > in New Testament class at VTS, before she had any symptoms. I knew she
> > would be a wonderful priest, and she proves it constantly.
> >
> > Her blog is here: http://incredible3years.wordpress.com/ . In her
> latest
> > entry, she writes about her "suckiness meltdown." Her name is Jennifer
> > Durant, and I know she would appreciate your prayers..
> >
> > Eleanor
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I've done lots of Hospice work, too, Jay, and I understand the issues.
> > > That's why I said I think it should be a person's choice. I don't have
> a
> > > moral objection to it, though I sometimes get caught up in the question
> > of
> > > whether we have the right to take a life--even our own. And I simply
> > don't
> > > know what I'd do if I were ever in that position.
> > >
> > > There is a priest, the assistant in my home parish right now who has
> ALS
> > > and is at the point where she can just about move the joystick on her
> > chair
> > > after someone positions it for her; that's all. She can't speak and
> may
> > > have a feeding tube--I'm not sure. But she is present every Sunday at
> > the
> > > altar, uses a computer-activated voice to speak, still "writes" and
> > > preaches her own sermons. For awhile, before she got the computer
> thing,
> > > others had to read her sermons for her, but now she does it. She
> > > distributes the bread at communion with an assistant. She still
> > accompanies
> > > the rector on hospital visits.
> > >
> > > I don't think I could possibly do what she is doing and has been doing
> > for
> > > a couple of years now, losing one capacity after another while her mind
> > has
> > > stayed as sharp as ever. But it has been an amazing gift to the
> > > congregation. I have often thought that if I were ever in that
> situation
> > I
> > > wouldn't want to continue living, but seeing her, I don't know. I
> often
> > > think of the title of that book that Kennedy wrote called "Profiles in
> > > Courage." She surely is an example of that.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Grace, as a former hospice nurse I don't have a single problem with
> it.
> > > Her
> > > > chances of recovery are zero, zip, zilch. She is merely choosing to
> go
> > > out
> > > > on her own terms, before she is a complete vegetable or something
> > worse.
> > > I
> > > > would like to at least have the *choice* to do the same if my
> situation
> > > > were similar.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Grace Cangialosi <
> gracecan at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Excellent article; I'm still somewhat conflicted about this, but I
> do
> > > > > think it's a personal decision.
> > > > > That said, I love the title of the blog where this appeared: Post
> > > > > Traumatic Church Syndrome!
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 15, 2014, at 2:00 AM, James Oppenheimer <
> > > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did a study on the topic of people having the right or not
> having
> > > the
> > > > > > right to end their lives at their chosen time. A lot of water
> has
> > > gone
> > > > > > over the dam since I did that reading back in the day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A young woman has found she has a short time left, and her family
> > has
> > > > > moved
> > > > > > to a state where people are allowed to die at the time of their
> > > > choosing.
> > > > > > Interesting article about it. A lot of interesting responses too.
> > > And a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > > of folks who just don't get it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/oyv25bg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James W. Oppenheimer
> > > > > > *"If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make
> > things
> > > > > better
> > > > > > for people coming behind you, and you don't do it, you're wasting
> > > your
> > > > > time
> > > > > > on this Earth." -- *Roberto Clemente
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Grace Cangialosi
> > > Ruckersville, VA
> > >
> > > "There are a lot of amazing people out there to be thankful for--
> > > and a loving God. that's what life is about."
> > >
> Robin
> > > Williams, 1951-2014
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grace Cangialosi
> Ruckersville, VA
>
> "There are a lot of amazing people out there to be thankful for--
> and a loving God. that's what life is about."
> Robin
> Williams, 1951-2014
>
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