[Magdalen] Texas was / Re: EC v. ED of Ft. Worth

Tue Oct 21 16:00:49 UTC 2014

Wendy-pink-shoes - could she not wear blue shoes?
Any more info??
Roland
UK
who attended Ike's first election

On 21/10/2014 16:01, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> (regarding different states)
>
> As a resident of TX, I am ever mindful that it is not easy to just 'up 
> and move', when the state one lives in becomes an anathema to one's 
> self...  It is near impossible to distance one's self from the 
> governmental policies enshrined under our current governor of 14 
> years. I'm voting early (and I wish often <g>) this week but the 
> possibility of changing leadership parties in this state, in this 
> election cycle, is doubtful.
>
> Those who must be obeyed keep chanting that the 'majority' of Texans 
> did this or that (voted this way or that way), but in fact only 18% of 
> our population voted in the last general election! Our policies do not 
> really represent the 'will' of the people, but sadly, I don't see it 
> changing much either. It is my hope that as people rush here for jobs, 
> and we do have them and that is happening, that they bring a different 
> social consciousness with them and slowly turn things around.
>
> My real fear is that if the current Attorney General (second in 
> command to governor) is elected governor, the same old, same old will 
> just escalate here - the only problem is that our state government is 
> truly a case of the Emperor's new state/new clothes, and I'm not sure 
> how many more years it can sustain itself without substance, and 
> without imploding.
>
> Wendy-pink-shoes is very probably not going to get elected, but I can 
> hope. And vote.
>
> Lynn
>
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
> gave me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>
> Thomas Merton writes, “People may spend their whole lives climbing the 
> ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the 
> ladder is leaning against the wrong wall.”
>
> "What you seek is seeking you." - Rumi
>
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> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth
>
>> Um, Grace, that's the case in SC.
>>
>> Sometimes I think the solution for Texas is to pull all our federal 
>> funds
>> and military bases, build a fence on the northern border, secede from 
>> them,
>> and offer unconditional amnesty to all Texans wishing to be in the real
>> U.S. of A. /snark off
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The title of the case is odd from our point of view. It is TEC v. 
>>> Jack Iker
>>> et al. I believe the titling of the case was changed by the Iker 
>>> faction in
>>> the appeals process.
>>> On Oct 20, 2014 11:09 PM, "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm still confused. You said the conservatives 'left, wanting to take
>>> > everything' and the Supreme Court of Texas gave it back to them.
>>> > So, in other words, they got to take everything?
>>> >
>>> > Why is the Episcopal Church suing the Episcopal Diocese? Aren't 
>>> they on
>>> > the same side? I would think the Episcopal Church or Diocese would be
>>> suing
>>> > the breakaway folks...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:00 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" 
>>> <ichthys89 at comcast.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > The conservatives 'left' wanting to 'take everything'.... the 
>>> SCourt > > of
>>> > TX gave it back to them... it's still not settled as you can see.  
>>> The > TX
>>> > SCourt still fancies that TX is a Republic, IMNSHO...
>>> > >
>>> > > Lynn
>>> > >
>>> > > website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>> > >
>>> > > When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that 
>>> I > > have
>>> > not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You
>>> gave
>>> > me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>> > >
>>> > > Thomas Merton writes, "People may spend their whole lives 
>>> climbing > > the
>>> > ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the 
>>> > ladder
>>> is
>>> > leaning against the wrong wall."
>>> > >
>>> > > "What you seek is seeking you." - Rumi
>>> > >
>>> > > --------------------------------------------------
>>> > > From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 4:54 PM
>>> > > To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>> > > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth
>>> > >
>>> > >> So is this Episcopal Church vs. Episcopal Diocese? Which group 
>>> are > >> the
>>> > good guys?
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> The Episcopal church won in the state district court and the > 
>>> >>> appeals
>>> > court
>>> > >>> but the TX Supreme Court ruled in favor of the former bishop 
>>> of Ft.
>>> > Worth.
>>> > >>> TEC appealed to SCOTUS. The brief is not a bad argument. It has
>>> already
>>> > >>> gotten a few amicus curae briefs in support.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> SCOTUS hasn't yet decided whether to grant cert on the case. The
>>> > justices
>>> > >>> will discuss it on 12/31 and decide whether to hear the case, 
>>> deny
>>> the
>>> > >>> request they hear it or hold it over for another conference.
>>> > >>>> On Oct 20, 2014 12:26 PM, "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Huh? Details, please.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Roy Murphy > >>>>> 
>>> <roy.murphy at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> The Supreme Court docket says the case was distributed for the
>>> 10/31
>>> > >>>>> conference. We could hear further news on 11/1. Either 
>>> grant, > >>>>> deny
>>> or
>>> > >>>>> relist.
>>> >
>>>