[Magdalen] Pistorius Trial.

Judy Fleener fleenerj at gmail.com
Fri Sep 12 10:20:57 PDT 2014


I love to listen to those.
Judy

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:

> I hadn't really followed the trial, so I'm not clear on whether the gun was
> already loaded when he picked it up. That would not be uncommon in the US,
> and would not necessarily indicate intent.
>
> As to South African and allied accents, I'm a huge fan of the Precious
> Ramotswe audiobooks as read by South African actress Lisette Lecat.
> Although they are set in Botwana, the accents must be somewhat similar, and
> she reads them in the African-accented English in which they are written.
> They're quite wonderful and are easy to understand.
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes - the accents are very different. However, it seems to be accepted in
> > broadcasting and film media that Americans, in particular, struggle to
> > understand 'foreign' accents. On the first animated movie that Keith
> worked
> > on, Adventures in Zambezia, almost all the original South African cast
> had
> > to be replaced with American voices in order to have any hope of an
> > American release deal.
> >
> > We did well out of it, with some great voices including Samuel L.
> Jackson,
> > but it pressed the budget past breaking point. So your experience, David,
> > is probably 'par for the course' in the USA.
> >
> > Perhaps in countries like the UK, where regional accents vary
> extensively,
> > people just get used to following these different accents? To us as South
> > Africans Aussies and New Zealanders sound nothing like us, but when I
> first
> > went to the UK people would often enquire whether I came from Down Under,
> > or even from Canada.
> >
> > I'm weary of the Oscar trial now but suspect we may not be done with it
> as
> > the State is not going to like this verdict. The Director of Public
> > Prosecutions has been in court which has me wondering if they're going to
> > appeal. I don't like the verdict myself because according to me if
> someone
> > loads a gun with that type of ammunition, they're already intending to
> kill
> > someone.
> >
> > Sally D
> >
> > On Friday, 12 September 2014, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There has been very heavy USA media coverage of this trial
> > > which seems to have dragged on forever.
> > >
> > > Yesterday there were comments during this TV coverage from
> > > five different South Africans, both black (the judge) and white,
> > > (including Pistorius).
> > >
> > > The judge was only partially comprehensible to me, but I suspect
> > > that for her, maybe English is a second language (?)
> > >
> > > The other four were variably understood by me, probably secondary
> > > to some very unusual (to me) vowel pronunciation.
> > >
> > > I had forgotten that South Africa has its own strong regional accent,
> > > as I keep lumping South Africans in with Aussies and New Zealanders.
> > > If these five on the news are any indication, my assumptions are
> > > obviously simplistic.
> > >
> > >
> > > David Strang - Struggling with his own Great Northern Cities Vowel
> > Shift.
> > >
> > >
> >
>



-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN
Western Michigan


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