[Magdalen] Temporarily Lutheran

[James Oppenheimer]

CCM?



James W. Oppenheimer
*“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:

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>
> In a message dated 9/15/2014 2:28:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jay.weigel at gmail.com writes:
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> I like  that the Lutherans are now eucharistically centered. The  Norwegian
> Lutherans of my childhood most certainly were  not.>>>
> I don't think most Upper Midwestern ELCA Lutherans feature the
> Eucharist as the main Sunday Liturgy.  Take for example, the
> Lutheran "Minneapolis Cathedral" - Central Lutheran Church on the
> edge of Downtown Minneapolis.  One can have the Eucharist there
> every Sunday, but not at the main services.
>
> The immigration from Norway was primarily during the
> "Pietist" era, which was fundamentally anti-clerical.  Since it  required
> an ordained clergyman for presiding at the Eucharist, they were
> relatively "against the Eucharist" by default.
>
> The modern anti-CCM "Word Alone" Lutherans are essentially for
> lay presidency of the Eucharist, as a sort of final extension of the
> Pietist dislike of clergy.
>
> For that matter, I suppose a case could be made that Luther himself
> was anti-clerical.  He strongly eschewed the idea of priestly  Sacrifice
> and the prevailing theology of "Alter Christus" with the celebrant  acting
> "in Persona Christi".  He wanted only the naked "Verbum" and held  that
> the Words of Institution alone were all that were necessary to effect  the
> Body and Blood.  He assumed that it was customary and salutary  that
> there be an ordained presider, but left unanswered whether this  presider
> might be lay.
>
>
> David Strang.
>