[Magdalen] Temporarily Lutheran

[Jay Weigel]

Call to Common Mission. Seriously, did you miss that? It was the successor
to the Concordat, the one that finally got passed, that put us in full
communion with ELCA.

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:23 PM, James Oppenheimer <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
wrote:

> CCM?
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> James W. Oppenheimer
> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
> for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
> on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
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> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
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> > In a message dated 9/15/2014 2:28:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jay.weigel at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > I like  that the Lutherans are now eucharistically centered. The
> Norwegian
> > Lutherans of my childhood most certainly were  not.>>>
> > I don't think most Upper Midwestern ELCA Lutherans feature the
> > Eucharist as the main Sunday Liturgy.  Take for example, the
> > Lutheran "Minneapolis Cathedral" - Central Lutheran Church on the
> > edge of Downtown Minneapolis.  One can have the Eucharist there
> > every Sunday, but not at the main services.
> >
> > The immigration from Norway was primarily during the
> > "Pietist" era, which was fundamentally anti-clerical.  Since it  required
> > an ordained clergyman for presiding at the Eucharist, they were
> > relatively "against the Eucharist" by default.
> >
> > The modern anti-CCM "Word Alone" Lutherans are essentially for
> > lay presidency of the Eucharist, as a sort of final extension of the
> > Pietist dislike of clergy.
> >
> > For that matter, I suppose a case could be made that Luther himself
> > was anti-clerical.  He strongly eschewed the idea of priestly  Sacrifice
> > and the prevailing theology of "Alter Christus" with the celebrant
> acting
> > "in Persona Christi".  He wanted only the naked "Verbum" and held  that
> > the Words of Institution alone were all that were necessary to effect
> the
> > Body and Blood.  He assumed that it was customary and salutary  that
> > there be an ordained presider, but left unanswered whether this  presider
> > might be lay.
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> >
> > David Strang.
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