[Magdalen] [Mgdln] (SPAM: ?) Who is your modern 'saint'?

Ian Gomersall ian.gomersall at gmail.com
Tue Sep 16 09:59:05 PDT 2014


Yes, while some of the US ones are unfamiliar they are helpful nominations!
Its good to stretch our vision and insight :)

Ian


*Ian Gomersall*



On 15 September 2014 19:18, James Oppenheimer <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Some may well wonder, "Who in Sam Hill
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Hill_(euphemism)> is Joe Hill?"
>
> He was a labor organizer, which pretty much qualifies him outright, since
> in those days, being a labor organizer could and did get one killed.
>
> The link shows the man's pedigree, but also illuminates the willingness of
> supposedly responsible adults to collude in another's death.  The death
> date of Joe will hit the century mark next year.
>
>
> http://www.aflcio.org/About/Our-History/Key-People-in-Labor-History/Joe-Hill-1879-1915
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer
> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
> for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
> on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for this reminder..I will remember from now on.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM, James Oppenheimer <
> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ​The idea was to suggest what might not be familiar.  After all, if it
> > were
> > > familiar, there would be no point in bothering to post at all.​
> > >
> > > James W. Oppenheimer
> > > *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things
> > better
> > > for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your
> > time
> > > on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Our calendar of saints isn't the same as the UK's, likely, and Ian
> has
> > > > already indicated that he's unfamiliar with many of our American
> > choices.
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, September 8, 2014, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Susan. I'm a Tom Paxton fan, but did not know that song.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > That made me think of this Tom Paxton song:
> > > > > > HOW BEAUTIFUL UPON THE MOUNTAIN (Tom Paxton)
> > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLDnL6UE_wM>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Across the bridge at Selma you came marching side by side
> > > > > > In your eyes a new world on the way
> > > > > > Hope was in your heart and justice would not be denied
> > > > > > You sang we shall overcome some day
> > > > > >
> > > > > > God knows the courage you possessed
> > > > > > And Issiah said it best
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marching round the White House, marching round the Pentagon
> > > > > > Marching round the mighty missile plans
> > > > > > Speaking truth to power, singing peace in Babylon
> > > > > > Asking us why not give peace a chance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > God knows the courage you possess
> > > > > > And Issiah said it best
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now the generations who have joined you on this road
> > > > > > Look to you with power in their eyes
> > > > > > Now you know the torch has passed as they pick up the load
> > > > > > Now you see their eyes are on the prize
> > > > > >
> > > > > > God knows the courage they possess
> > > > > > And Issiah said it best
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > How beautiful upon the mountain
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > Are the steps of those who walk in peace
> > > > > > Read more at
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.songlyrics.com/tom-paxton/how-beautiful-upon-the-mountain-lyrics/#uKLkrylKH7qD7OUh.99
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Lee Lemmon <
> lemmon.lee9 at gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > > > > Jonathan Daniels belongs on the list along with Rosa Parks and
> > MLK.
> > > > > > >  Jonathan was a witness indeed, a true martyr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:38 AM, James Oppenheimer <
> > > > > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Oh, yes! You can hear the. Great Singer on Youtube singing
> "Joe
> > > > Hill"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Joe was an organizer for labor when it could, and DID, get
> > people
> > > > > killed
> > > > > > >> and ruined.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> People such as he were willing to take just incredible risks
> to
> > > > change
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> world.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If Nnicholas Romanov and family can be considered for
> sainthood,
> > > > then
> > > > > > >> surely Joe Hill.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Monday, September 8, 2014, Grace Cangialosi <
> > > gracecan at gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > And that reminded me of Paul Robeson, another modern saint.
> > > > > > >> > He was in Sydney while their magnificent opera house was
> being
> > > > > built,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > he paid a visit. He stood on the stage in the unfinished
> > > building
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> sang
> > > > > > >> > "Joe Hill" to the workmen there.
> > > > > > >> > I've heard a recording of his singing that, and it's
> powerful.
> > > He
> > > > > was
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > true Renaissance man--and paid dearly for it...
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > On Sep 7, 2014, at 10:30 PM, James Handsfield <
> > > > > jhandsfield at att.net <javascript:;>
> > > > > > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night
> > > > > > >> > > Alive as he could be
> > > > > > >> > > Said I "But Joe, you're nine years dead."
> > > > > > >> > > "I never died," said he.
> > > > > > >> > > "I never died," said he.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > "Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use
> to
> > > > change
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > world." -- Nelson Mandela
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Jim Handsfield
> > > > > > >> > > jhandsfield at att.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> On Sep 7, 2014, at 9:16 AM, James Oppenheimer <
> > > > > > >> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Joe Hill.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> James W. Oppenheimer
> > > > > > >> *"If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make
> > > things
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > >> for people coming behind you, and you don't do it, you're
> > wasting
> > > > your
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > >> on this Earth."  -- *Roberto Clemente
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Before enlightenment pay bills, do laundry.  After enlightenment
> > pay
> > > > > > bills, do laundry.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Christopher Hart
> > > > >
> > > > > List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net <javascript:;>
> > > > > Twitter: @cervus51
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Judy Fleener, ObJN
> > Western Michigan
> >
>


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