[Magdalen] GTS

Judy Fleener fleenerj at gmail.com
Mon Sep 29 18:12:25 PDT 2014


This is just too sad.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <ichthys89 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> After reading both letters (from the dean and then from a faculty member),
> it sounds like "the Cain Mutiny" with its missing strawberries scandal,
> only much more serious, disturbing and sad.
>
> Lynn, in prayer for GTS a place that has always been a community I loved
> to visit and be a part of every year for a day or two.
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>
> Thomas Merton writes, “People may spend their whole lives climbing the
> ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the ladder is
> leaning against the wrong wall.”
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Eleanor Braun" <eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:26 PM
> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] GTS
>
>
>  More here-- resignations?  firings?  It sounds out of control.
>>
>> http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/seminaries/eight_gts_
>> faculty_terminated.html
>>
>>
>> Eleanor
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Roger Stokes <
>> roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>  On 29/09/2014 20:55, Eleanor Braun wrote:
>>>
>>>  Andrew Gerns' post in Daily Episcopalian may explain some of it:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.episcopalcafe.com/daily/seminaries/leadership_
>>>> community_and_the_c.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  My quick response to that is to wonder to what extent the Dean and
>>> President's style is preparing students for effective ministry out there
>>> in
>>> the Church.  I am one who has had conflict in my ministry as I have
>>> sought
>>> to lead when my leadership has been opposed.  In my case my vision has
>>> been
>>> vindicated in each parish I have served, but there have been bloody
>>> battles
>>> on the way.
>>>
>>> I am far from convinced that the Dean drawing all power to himself is a
>>> wise strategy.  It certainly seems far from what I see as the appropriate
>>> model for the Church today.  Only this evening I was talking with my
>>> Rural
>>> Dean about another parish where the priest seems to be following that
>>> model
>>> and I am to go in and discuss the situation with the wardens.  That could
>>> be an "interesting" conversation but I will not flinch from it as I have
>>> nothing to lose and no need for any ongoing relationship with them.
>>>
>>> That said, a healthy Church, parish or seminary is one where the gifts of
>>> all members are valued and no individual is the dictator.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>


-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN
Western Michigan


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