[Magdalen] Terminology query (was Re: speaking of downsizing...)

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Interesting and relevant info James, thanks!!

Lynn, whose former rector banned this song for the reason Scott cited 
below.... oh how 'theology' seems to blow with the wind sometimes... kind of 
like the way people want the constitution to be the same: then and forever, 
as if it was not also a living document.

My email has changed to: houstonKLR at gmail.com

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck

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From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:39 AM
To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Terminology query (was Re: speaking of 
downsizing...)

> I was privileged to be in the room when Professor James Washington did a
> little off-topic rambling on this hymn.
>
> He simply recited the refrain, but converting it into genuine dialogue. It
> became for all of us a hymn which brought out in detail the here-and-now
> real presence of God in the writer's life.
>
> Since the hymn is a meditation on the scene where the Magdalenian Lady
> encounters Jesus (that is, after all, why it is called "In the Garden"),
> it's kind of stupid to talk about it in terms of individuality, since it 
> is
> by definition the thoughts of one woman.
>
> The snarky liturgics instructor would, I presume, also exclude "Saint
> Patrick's Breastplate."
>
> How easy it is to mock heathen stuff we don't know much about. We're so
> much better than those -- those -- those snake handlers.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:47 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > "In the Garden"
>>
>> I took a liturgy class in our diocesan education program in Michigan,
>> and the priest who taught it railed at "In the Garden" for its
>> individualism: "And he walks with ME, and he talks with ME, and he
>> tells ME that *I* am his own!" ... and that it's thus a most
>> inappropriate hymn for communal worship. I can't argue with that.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott R. Knitter
>> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>>