[Magdalen] End of an Era.

Esther Williamson momohl1 at cox.net
Thu Apr 2 13:43:06 UTC 2015


That is how I remember it. Morning Prayer was short. We often went to 
the early service for the short Eucharist on the Sunday when the long 
Communion Service was held at the late service.

Esther (who is having computer problems and often can't get onlline)



On 4/1/2015 10:33 PM, Charles Wohlers wrote:
> Two hours for Morning Prayer??? Certainly never in my experience. 
> "When I was a boy" I much preferred Morning Prayer (we are, of course, 
> talking 1928 BCP here) because it was only 45 minutes, while the first 
> Sunday of the month communion service was an hour and a quarter.
>
> Most of what Scott recalls is also familiar to me.
>
> Chad Wohlers
> Woodbury, VT USA
> chadwohl at satucket.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Guthrie
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 6:01 PM
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] End of an Era.
>
> From: Scott Knitter
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:59 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We had MP rite I a couple of weeks ago and it hasn't worn
>> well. It felt scuffed, frayed.
>
> That's what happens when you get out of practice or try to shorten it 
> to fit the
> modern style. Back in the day people didn’t think twice about worship 
> services
> that went two hours in TEC. OTOH, some of the A-C parishes where only 
> the priest
> received at the Principal Service could be far faster than the "Low 
> Church"
> MP-Litany-Sermon-Communion approach.
>
> Scott added:
>
>> Always interesting to me to see old bulletins from MP days to see how
>> things were done when it was the familiar thing. Big processional
>> hymn, all the penitential material, psalm said responsively by verse,
>> often one choral canticle and one chanted congregationally in Anglican
>> chant; sermon in one of several possible positions in the liturgy; big
>> doings at the offertory including doxology and patriotic verse (maybe
> f>lags); big anthem after the collects (like Wesley's Ascribe unto the
>> Lord).
>
> Yes -- the most common approach. Back in the day.
>
>> I remember going to Christ Church Cranbrook (Bloomfield Hills, Mich.)
>> for Morning Prayer and the highlight for me being the congregational
>> chanting of Te Deum. Lots of kneeling on hassocks...I still remember
>
> Congregations belting out the Psalm and Venite in four-part Anglican 
> Chant was
> common.
>
> the swishing sound made when all the hassocks were being pulled out
> from under the next pew. Also remember falling off the
> hassocks...ouch.
>
> Well, try the parishes with the wooden bench kneelers with one or two 
> "high
> church" people banging down and banging back up in the middle of the 
> Nicene
> Creed, along with the non-genuflectors yelling "ouch" when the support 
> mashed
> their foot, and then the muffled shriek when it caught a woman's skirt 
> on the
> way back up <g>.
>
> And everyone in smart business dress. Every man in a
> dark suit, for one thing. (Not saying that's something I miss...just
> what it was like then in that parish.)
>
> Yup -- and Palm Sunday as "Little Easter" which brought out many women 
> in **last
> years** Easter Finery with a whole new outfit (including the required 
> hat and
> gloves) purchased for Easter Day each year.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie



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