[Magdalen] Two to go

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Sat Apr 4 16:08:35 UTC 2015


Acolytes have always done all that "subdeacon" stuff in every parish I've
ever been in. Am I hopelessly low church? If so, I'll take it.

I had to smother a laugh the last Sunday I was reading at Reformation
Lutheran....after the offering was received, the assisting minister
produced a bottle of hand sanitizer from somewhere behind the altar,
availed herself of it, and handed it to the pastor, who used it and handed
it back. Some ablutions! It was all done so nobody could see it unless they
were close up, but readers usually sit next to the organist throughout the
service....which is interesting, because you get in on various amusing
happenings.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We don't have a Deacon /per se/  (although we might have had if the
> priest's departure in 2009 hadn't stopped the process in its tracks , never
> to be revived), but we use the titles and the vestments.  Subdeacon sets
> the table, does half the rail, and ablutions.
> Interestingly, our interim priest is treating me as a deacon.  I now
> proclaim the Gospel and get to do the Dismissal.  Such a change from
> previously.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim
>
>
>  4/4/2015 10:57 AM, Scott Knitter wrote:
>
>> There has to be a subdeacon for a liturgy to be solemn. The celebrant,
>> deacon, and subdeacon move as a group, and deacon and subdeacon assist the
>> celebrant in some fairly unnecessary ways. :) Subdeacon chants the
>> epistle,
>> helps the deacon set the altar for the offertory, and administers the
>> chalice along half of thw communion rail. If they had to do without,  the
>> deacon and MC could cover things, but it would look incomplete. Or the
>> service could turn into a sung high Mass rather than a solemn high one. No
>> deacon or subdeacon required for that.
>> On Apr 4, 2015 9:36 AM, "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I'm showing my ignorance of Anglo-Catholic liturgy here, Scott, since I'm
>>> not even sure what a subdeacon does, but does there have a to be a
>>> subdeacon at every service? Couldn't you sit out a service or two, since
>>> you're the only one?
>>>   I know we are sometimes short a position or two--LEM or acolyte, etc.,
>>> and
>>> we either draft someone or do without, and the service doesn't suffer.
>>> And,
>>> of course, most of our churches don't have deacons at all, except during
>>> that "transition" time after seminary graduations.
>>> Just wondering...
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Trying not to grumble, but I really would rather not have had to serve
>>>> as subdeacon for every single service during the Triduum. That's where
>>>> two of our regular subdeacons have left us, though, by going away
>>>> angry over the staff changes. And another has been recovering from
>>>> surgery (the nerve!). Not backbreaking work by any means, but a lot of
>>>> time and a feeling of "too much church." Would also love to worship
>>>> from a pew once.
>>>>
>>>> There. I feel like I can grumble here so I won't grumble there. :)
>>>> Thanks...off to Saturday morning rehearsal for this evening's Vigil.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott R. Knitter
>>>> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Grace Cangialosi
>>> Ruckersville, VA
>>>
>>> It's a good thing Mary didn't have to wait for a Doctrine of the
>>> Incarnation
>>> before she said "Yes" to God.
>>>
>>>  .
>>
>>
>


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