[Magdalen] Church as Personality Billy Graham

[Grace Cangialosi]

I only know what Robin told us. Maybe it was her particular church, rather than the denomination, that wouldn't ordain women.

> On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This is from the Wikipedia article on the Church of the Nazarene, but
> attributed to the mauaal for the church, so I guess they do ordain women. I
> was always told they did, from earliest times, although in practice they
> are so dang conservative that I would guess few to none actually pastor a
> church. They do, however, hold positions of authority, and one has even
> been General Superintendent.
> 
> "The Church of the Nazarene has two orders of ordained ministry: the
> ordained elder and the ordained deacon. The ordained elder is a person,
> either male or female, who has been set apart for a ministry of "Word and
> Sacrament." Their primary assignment is to preach the Word, administer the
> sacraments, and lead the local church. The ordained deacon is a man or
> woman who has been set apart for full-time ministry in a role other than
> "Word and Sacrament." Those eligible to be ordained as deacons include
> those who are called to a full-time ministry of music, Christian social
> ministry, or director of Christian education, or another ministry that does
> not typically involve leading a congregation. The church also has district
> licensed ministers. Usually these are persons who are on the path toward
> ordination or who are strongly considering a call to ordained ministry. A
> licensed minister may, in some cases, be the pastor of a church."
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, the chaplain at Rockingham was Church of the Nazarine, and they did
>> NOT ordain women...
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> IFSG was right there with Church of the Nazarene in terms of female
>> clergy.
>>> They were really the kick starters. Some of the African-American groups
>>> also, which is one thing that led to the split in the Pentecostal
>> movement
>>> and the parallel development of the church of God in Christ (AA) and the
>>> Assembly of God (white).
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Cantor03--- via Magdalen
>>>> 
>>>> My personal favorite among all these personalities is Aimee Semple
>>>>> Mcpherson,
>>>>> founded of the Four Square Gospel Tabernacles.  At least churches  of
>> that
>>>>> denomination still exist.
>>>> 
>>>> Their Los Angeles Temple is equidistant between the Episcopal Church
>>>> Center and Jon +Bruno's old restaurant on Sunset Blvd.
>>>> 
>>>> It was distinguished by having two towers supporting a Hammock Antenna
>> for
>>>> their radio broadcasts. I believe they ran KRKD.
>>>> 
>>>> There was  FourSquare Gospel congregation in Bellefonte PA -- they
>> bought
>>>> 30 minutes every Sunday for their worship service. The Pastor was a
>> woman
>>>> -- and was there at least when I started Penn State. in 1970. It would
>> seem
>>>> the FourSquare people were way ahead of us latecomers on women clergy.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jim Guthrie
>>