[Magdalen] Exorcism

[Clarissa Canning]

I had a conversation about exorcism with a former Canadian Bishop.  He said
it is a ministry one really has to contemplate to do.  He had someone come
asking to do something in a trailer home. The little boy was being bothered
by an uncomfortable spirit.  He said always take a witness. They prayed
thru the home using Holy water & read out a funeral service for a child in
their child's room.  Things went back to normal after this.  (It was told
to them that a child had died in the home under bad circumstances
previously.)
   The other story was an exorcism for a man. He took amother priest as a
witness.  he called out the demons. when they reacted  they felt it and had
to keep praying at times it was stronger like wrestling.  They evil spirits
left. after a few hours.   He said they hoped not to do this ministry too
often it is disconcerting.


On Dec 10, 2015 2:24 AM, "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I have certainly experienced real palpable evil.  Some people are so
> far gone beyond the act of merely failing to weigh choices correctly that
> one senses almost a visceral dread of the stuff these people come up with.
> Yes indeed, we are capable of incredible depths of depravity all by
> ourselves.  We don't need help going there, sad to say.
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Me too, Arthur.
> >
> > It's also interesting that in my environment of Africa, few people inside
> > the churches or even outside them are inclined to question the
> > independent existence of evil and of evil entities. It doesn't sit
> > comfortably with rationality but in this part of the world the
> supernatural
> > and the natural are not separated to the same extent as in the "rational"
> > West.
> >
> > I don't understand it, but there again I don't understand most of Reality
> > and that's OK.
> >
> > My main problem with all of this is not so much philosophy or theodicy
> but
> > psychology. I'm a devotee and servant of the human brain in all its
> > miraculous strangeness, including its ability to connect with other
> brains
> > in ways that aren't obvious to the five senses or easily explained.
> >
> > It so aggravating when phenomena that are much more elegantly explained
> by
> > recourse to these lesser known psycho-social competencies and
> > vulnerabilities, are ascribed to either God or the Devil.
> >
> > I don't mean to imply that this leaves us with a "Satan of the gaps". To
> my
> > mind, one of Satan's cleverest tricks is to get us searching for Hannibal
> > Lector when someone like Donald Trump is a much more worthy candidate.
> He's
> > convinced a lot of people to believe in the "light" he claims to be
> shining
> > on Reality (Truth is completely irrelevant in his campaign) - and they
> will
> > give him the highest power in the land if they have the chance. Screwtape
> > and his team must be well pleased with him!!
> >
> > Ian: you asked the original question, what do you think of The Screwtape
> > Letters?
> >
> > Sally D
> >
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, Arthur Laurent <ALaurent at npr.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I believe in the devil and other creatures of pure evil, because I've
> > been
> > > in the presence of evil, and was glad when I could walk away. This is
> not
> > > an intellectual belief (none of my spiritual beliefs are intellectual),
> > but
> > > is based on personal experience.
> > >
> > > James wrote, "...Thinking one can behave their way into heaven is an
> > > insult to the whole idea of salvation," and I agree. There is nothing
> we
> > > can do by ourselves that will get us into heaven. That's why we have
> > Jesus
> > > as our Advocate.
> > >
> > > Of course, some of us are going to take a lot more advocacy than
> others.
> > >
> > > Arthur
> >
>