[Magdalen] Christmas Day

Marion Thompson marionwhitevale at gmail.com
Fri Dec 25 23:40:27 UTC 2015


In our place, there are two occasions:  the first as we go up the 
chancel steps so he doesn't tread on it, each of us grasping one side of 
the opening.  Then as he circles the altar with the thurible, one fore 
and one aft still holding the front edges away, to keep his arms free 
while he censes.

We, of course, are reluctant to stop doing what we do in the face of his 
refusing to play nicely lest all that be lost forever.

Marion, a pilgrim

On 12/25/2015 2:51 PM, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> In my dio copes are worn more and more at parish and dio events. +Andy is very fond of them and has quite a few. I've never seen anyone "assist" priest or bishop with cope- coming, going or during the service.  Just an observation from here.
> Lynn, headed out to mom's care home for Christmas dinner ; )
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 25, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Last Sunday we had no deacon of the Mass, so our celebrant wore a
> chasuble throughout, and we "left him alone" for censings and the
> eucharistic prayer.
>
> One thing I'm wondering about is holding the cope, which in the past
> couple of years seems to have become an entirely practical
> consideration in our parish: "No, I don't need you to hold the cope;
> it's not one of the long ones." I had thought the deacon and subdeacon
> were to hold the cope always, not depending on whether the celebrant
> "needs" the help. It's what you do with a cope. Seems like it's
> something that needn't be decided every time. The upside is that if
> the celebrant doesn't "need" assistance with the cope, we can proceed
> in single file, which is simpler and doesn't require the deacon and
> subdeacon changing sides when we turn around. That's what was done
> last night...single file for all processions, entrance, and exit. A
> bit easier.
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Marion Thompson
> <marionwhitevale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Last night's service went as well as we could make it, but, geez, our P-i-C
>> has the liturgical sense of a turnip and will not be moved.  Who else would
>> refuse to wear a cope on these occasions? So when we accompany him around
>> the altar when he censes it at the start, there is no reason for us to
>> traipse around with him, although we do, fufilling the now-nominal roles of
>> deacon and sub-deacon.
>
>
>



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