[Magdalen] Feast.

[Jay Weigel]

One place I have seen liturgical dance done really well is in a (mostly)
African-American Baptist church attended by my other-daughter Mary and most
of her kids. I guess if you want to quibble, it's not *really* liturgical
dance, but "praise dance". Anyhow, it's beautiful, and well done, too. My
goddaughter Alana used to be part of the team when she was younger. It
doesn't look out of place or self-conscious there, as it does in so many
churches.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:

> Lynn, thank you for this.  I love Episcopal liturgy, of the relatively low
> (my friends who know tell me it's not really snakebelly), and yes,
> dignified (no liturgical dance with pompoms) variety.  But I have very
> little patience with those who can't tolerate experimentation and
> innovation in places other than your own.  New liturgies come from
> SOMEWHERE -- they don't just materialize out of thin air.  And St. Gregory
> of Nyssa is one of the many parishes in many dioceses (usually recognized
> as such by their Bishops) who are trying for beautiful, innovative, and
> yes, welcoming worship styles.  Nobody forces anyone to attend a church
> whose liturgical style doesn't suit them.  If you (not you, personally,
> Lynn) don't want to attend St. G. of N, then it's "not your circus, not
> your monkeys."  Or as I'm learning to say in AA (and probably should say
> before I even send this, but what the hell) -- two handy phrases to keep in
> your toolbox are "It's none of my business," and "I have no opinion on
> that."  There's also another handy catchphrase:  "Live and let live."  I
> say if you're not part of a parish's life, then butt out of their
> liturgical business and take care of your own.
>
> Ann
>
> The Rev. Ann Markle
> Buffalo, NY
> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A priest with great interest in both liturgical boundary exploration and
> > 'welcome' was called to Gregory of Nissa about 10 years ago. It coincided
> > with changes in his own life when he realized he no  longer wanted to be
> a
> > celibate gay priest in Houston/dio TX where he had been 'out' since
> > seminary, but willing to be celibate under the diocesan rules.  His name
> is
> > Paul Fromberg and from what I understand he is beloved at ST. GofN.  From
> > what I know of his philosophy/theology he is very much focused on welcome
> > and openness.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
> >
> > When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
> not
> > a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
> me."
> > attributed to Erma Bombeck
> > "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> > by Richard Rohr
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Cantor03--- via Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:10 PM
> > To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> > Cc: <Cantor03 at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Feast.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/28/2015 2:53:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> michaudme at gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> I've  actually been to St. Gregory Nyssa. God help me, I thought it was
> >> rather  dull. And contrived to boot. What a disappointment.
> >>
> >> But maybe I hit it  on a bad  day.
> >> -M>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I no longer belong to the Associated Parishes group for reasons not
> >> clear to me, though I suspect membership expired without my realizing
> >> it.  AP is a rather clique-ish group, however, and sometimes  seem
> >> a little smug, at least IMHO, and I definitely wasn't part of the
> clique.
> >>
> >> But I digress.
> >>
> >> In any case, before my membership in AP disappeared, I recall that
> >> the founding two priests of Saint Gregory of Nyssa who were very
> >> active in the AP, retired.
> >>
> >> I've therefore wondered if new clergy could keep control and  direct
> >> this place which is, again IMHO, a loose liturgical canon.  Maybe  it's
> >> all finally broken away from its moorings and sailing away,  rudderless.
> >>
> >> And how can you call a church that uses neither TEC '79 Prayer Book
> >> or TEC '82 (or the 1928 BCP and the 1940 Hymnal) USA Anglican?
> >>
> >>
> >> David Strang.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>