[Magdalen] Washington Post article on involuntary hospitalization of the mentally ill

[Jay Weigel]

I agree, Susan, which was my point. It's SO much easier to concentrate on
rounding up people like these than it is to deal with the people who are
mentally ill and really dangerous. (some snark intended)

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think this woman is any danger to other people.  I think she
> is someone who needs a safe place to live and consistent services to
> see that she takes some minimal care of herself.  Virginia at least is
> very short on safe housing and consistent community based outpatient
> services.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It seems to me that there is too much concentration on people like this
> > woman and not enough on the truly dangerous-to-others people who are out
> > there. Maybe because it's easier to round these little sheep up and
> confine
> > them. Then people who really need help get thrown in jail and those who
> are
> > truly dangerous are free to hurt others. It pisses me off. Sorry for the
> > language.
> >
> > On Monday, February 2, 2015, Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 03/02/2015 00:21, Ann Markle wrote:
> >>
> >>> Susan, I read this article -- for some reason, it took me all day.  I
> >>> remember making home visits to clients sometimes, and finding their
> living
> >>> quarters in a condition that didn't seem good to me, but it's a hard
> line
> >>> to draw, between "each to his (or her) own," vs. "these conditions are
> >>> hazardous to the client and other building residents, or signs of
> >>> worsening
> >>> condition."  The article in the NY Times was almost opposite, about the
> >>> closing of the Brooklyn Psychiatric Center and a man who had been
> admitted
> >>> for the better part of 30 years, and what would be his life now.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Here in the UK we had a situation a few decades ago where the decision
> was
> >> made to close the long-term psychiatric units.  In the case of many
> >> residents it is (to say the least) questionable whether they should have
> >> been in such a facility but the fact was that they were and so it was a
> >> question of what to do with them.  They were going to be turfed out of
> what
> >> they regarded as their home.
> >>
> >> I agree that for many (most?) pf the residents of these psychiatric
> >> institutions that was not an appropriate placement had they been
> considered
> >> on first presentation, but this was not the situation we were in.  I am
> far
> >> from convinced that what happened was appropriate or exhibited
> sufficient
> >> pastoral care for these long-term residents.
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
>
>
>
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