[Magdalen] Epiphany

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Mon Jan 5 18:19:09 UTC 2015


A Swedish star carol for Epiphany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akEq5u776SI

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:

> ​Part of my ability to read aloud came from my parents, who read to us
> with great fluency and expression. I probably absorbed early that that was
> the way to do it. I also had some teachers along the way who were very good
> at that. My fourth grade teacher, Miss Kienzle, was terrific. If we had
> been good and done our work for the day, we could look forward that
> afternoon to another chapter in the book she was reading to the class​.
> Next came plays and whatever all the way through high school and into
> college (although I dropped out of drama club after being asked to try out
> for the part of Emily in "Our Town"..never could stand her!). I read to my
> kids from the time they were born, just as my parents had read to me. I
> started lector training around 1990 and dutifully reported every year. One
> year the priest, with whom I'd had some clashes (mostly initiated by him),
> couldn't find anything else to criticize so he said, "Think of N. N.
> (naming a notoriously hard of hearing parishioner) because I don't think
> she could hear you." I nearly burst out laughing, because every time I
> read, she sought me out after church and told me that I was one of the few
> readers she could actually hear without turning up her hearing aid. I bit
> my lip and restrained myself, however.
>
> One thing I can do, though I prefer not to, is read "cold", that is, on
> very short notice, without much preparation. I told the pastor that because
> I know there are times when someone can't make it. In practice, I usually
> look at the reading in more than one translation beforehand so I can read
> it with understanding.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Marion Thompson <
> marionwhitevale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a lot to be said for working with the readers in an ongoing
>> fashion so that they _can_ cope better with Paul.  The Readers and
>> Intercessors are my responsibility.   So much depends on their also
>> bothering to familiarize themself with the reading and what is being said
>> beforehand, not just glancing at it before the service, if that!
>> Nobody _taught_ me to read well, not at seminary or otherwise.  It comes
>> with interest and the desire to do ever better.  There are excellent books
>> on the subject.
>>
>> Marion, a pilgrim   ... today my sail I lift ....
>>
>> On 1/5/2015 12:17 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, it's NRSV, all right, but the sentences still run on and are hard to
>>> follow for most people, even though the translation breaks them up for
>>> readers. You may not think so because of your classes in NT, but put
>>> yourself in the place of the guys in the pew again, please......and then
>>> think how hard that is to read for someone to read who *didn't* have the
>>> benefit of good reader training, which I fortunately did, but which most
>>> of
>>> the readers at Reformation haven't.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Wow, one of Paul's most beautiful and joyous and promising readings!
>>>> I'm
>>>> so sorry your translation was a run-on -- not in our NRSV translation!
>>>> I'm
>>>> glad the NRSV did break up some of Paul's run-on sentences!
>>>>
>>>> I started out in TN holding HE on the day of the Epiphany, but very few
>>>> people came (5 or fewer) - so eventually I got the message and
>>>> eliminated
>>>> it.  We tried to celebrate both - Epiphany and the Baptism of Christ on
>>>> the
>>>> Sunday after, as we had at Trinity in Buffalo.  It worked better.
>>>> Epiphany
>>>> is not a moveable feast, but I've come to realize that many parishes (as
>>>> did Ian's) "float" it anyway.  Beneficial for teaching purposes, if the
>>>> aim
>>>> is to teach about the observance.  Teaching 50 people is better than
>>>> teaching 5, IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Ann
>>>>
>>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>>>> Buffalo, NY
>>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The Lutherans of New Market, VA will celebrate Epiphany next Sunday.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> finding this church kind of like a snakebelly-ish Episcopal church,
>>>>>
>>>> maybe a
>>>>
>>>>> tad higher than that....we *did* have a Gospel procession on Christmas
>>>>>
>>>> Eve,
>>>>
>>>>> which surprised the heck out of me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read for the first time yesterday and was given kudos by the pastor
>>>>> and
>>>>> many in the congregation. Didn't do anything different from what I have
>>>>> always done so I just told them I was trained by the Episcopalians ;->
>>>>>
>>>> The
>>>>
>>>>> second reading was pretty awful, though, one of Paul's run-ons that was
>>>>> obviously dictated. I always picture his poor beleaguered secretary
>>>>>
>>>> saying,
>>>>
>>>>> "Hold it there, Paul, you're going too fast! I didn't get all that! Let
>>>>>
>>>> me
>>>>
>>>>> catch up!"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Eleanor Braun <
>>>>> eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  We also have Eucharist on Jan 6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus a potluck dinner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:44 AM, flyingfish224--- via Magdalen <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ann, my parish celebrates Epiphany on the day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Renee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the US Episcopal Church we celebrate our holidays (even the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> non-moveable
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ones like Epiphany) on the Sunday after the feast.  Not Xmas and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Easter, of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> course.  Glad your celebration was fine, Ian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>>>>>>>> Buffalo, NY
>>>>>>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>>>>>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Ian Gomersall <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ian.gomersall at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  We had a lovely Epiphany yesterday - we keep it on the Sunday and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> works, as several people travel in or have hard working jobs making
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> weekday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> festivals difficult.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It also means we are more integrated in the congregation for a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> major
>>>>
>>>>> feast
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> day - children can come easily.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our evening activity included smoking bishop:
>>>>>>>>> Have a look at:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  http://stchrysostoms.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/
>>>> smoking-bishop-at-epiphany/
>>>>
>>>>> *Ian Gomersall*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
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