[Magdalen] Epiphany

Tue Jan 6 01:50:10 UTC 2015

I have heard it said that the mark of a good reader is that after the
lesson has been read it is the lesson that is remembered and not the reader.

Mike M.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> There is a lot to be said for working with the readers in an ongoing
> fashion so that they _can_ cope better with Paul.  The Readers and
> Intercessors are my responsibility.   So much depends on their also
> bothering to familiarize themself with the reading and what is being said
> beforehand, not just glancing at it before the service, if that!
> Nobody _taught_ me to read well, not at seminary or otherwise.  It comes
> with interest and the desire to do ever better.  There are excellent books
> on the subject.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim   ... today my sail I lift ....
>
>
> On 1/5/2015 12:17 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
>
>> Oh, it's NRSV, all right, but the sentences still run on and are hard to
>> follow for most people, even though the translation breaks them up for
>> readers. You may not think so because of your classes in NT, but put
>> yourself in the place of the guys in the pew again, please......and then
>> think how hard that is to read for someone to read who *didn't* have the
>> benefit of good reader training, which I fortunately did, but which most
>> of
>> the readers at Reformation haven't.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Wow, one of Paul's most beautiful and joyous and promising readings!  I'm
>>> so sorry your translation was a run-on -- not in our NRSV translation!
>>> I'm
>>> glad the NRSV did break up some of Paul's run-on sentences!
>>>
>>> I started out in TN holding HE on the day of the Epiphany, but very few
>>> people came (5 or fewer) - so eventually I got the message and eliminated
>>> it.  We tried to celebrate both - Epiphany and the Baptism of Christ on
>>> the
>>> Sunday after, as we had at Trinity in Buffalo.  It worked better.
>>> Epiphany
>>> is not a moveable feast, but I've come to realize that many parishes (as
>>> did Ian's) "float" it anyway.  Beneficial for teaching purposes, if the
>>> aim
>>> is to teach about the observance.  Teaching 50 people is better than
>>> teaching 5, IMO.
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>>> Buffalo, NY
>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  The Lutherans of New Market, VA will celebrate Epiphany next Sunday. I'm
>>>> finding this church kind of like a snakebelly-ish Episcopal church,
>>>>
>>> maybe a
>>>
>>>> tad higher than that....we *did* have a Gospel procession on Christmas
>>>>
>>> Eve,
>>>
>>>> which surprised the heck out of me.
>>>>
>>>> I read for the first time yesterday and was given kudos by the pastor
>>>> and
>>>> many in the congregation. Didn't do anything different from what I have
>>>> always done so I just told them I was trained by the Episcopalians ;->
>>>>
>>> The
>>>
>>>> second reading was pretty awful, though, one of Paul's run-ons that was
>>>> obviously dictated. I always picture his poor beleaguered secretary
>>>>
>>> saying,
>>>
>>>> "Hold it there, Paul, you're going too fast! I didn't get all that! Let
>>>>
>>> me
>>>
>>>> catch up!"
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Eleanor Braun <eleanor.braun at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We also have Eucharist on Jan 6.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus a potluck dinner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:44 AM, flyingfish224--- via Magdalen <
>>>>>>
>>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann, my parish celebrates Epiphany on the day
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Renee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the US Episcopal Church we celebrate our holidays (even the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> non-moveable
>>>>>
>>>>>> ones like Epiphany) on the Sunday after the feast.  Not Xmas and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Easter, of
>>>>>
>>>>>> course.  Glad your celebration was fine, Ian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>>>>>>> Buffalo, NY
>>>>>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>>>>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Ian Gomersall <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ian.gomersall at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  We had a lovely Epiphany yesterday - we keep it on the Sunday and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> find
>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> works, as several people travel in or have hard working jobs making
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> weekday
>>>>>
>>>>>> festivals difficult.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It also means we are more integrated in the congregation for a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> major
>>>
>>>> feast
>>>>>
>>>>>> day - children can come easily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our evening activity included smoking bishop:
>>>>>>>> Have a look at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  http://stchrysostoms.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/
>>> smoking-bishop-at-epiphany/
>>>
>>>> *Ian Gomersall*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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