[Magdalen] Whoops. We've got the Southern slavers' battle flag in the National Cathedral.

James Oppenheimer-Crawford oppenheimerjw at gmail.com
Wed Jul 1 02:43:32 UTC 2015


He has a very nice sarcophagus in his chapel in Lexington (VA), and the
whole family is interred there.  When I was there (worst mistake I ever
made) A direct descendant (also a Bob Lee) was in my class.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I didn't know Lee was ever in Brooklyn!
>
> > On Jun 30, 2015, at 6:08 PM, "Jim Guthrie" <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jon Egger
> >
> >> Things (and this thread) remind me of the "fighting bishop" (Leonidas
> >> Polk?) who is memorialized at our seminary at Sewanee.  Do we remove him
> >> from the seminary?  Do we simply forget him?
> >
> > No -- but at the same time the interpretive information has to relate
> the consequences, for, say, persons of color. Not to mention the poor
> Whites who fought in order to keep their marginal economic existence at
> least slightly higher than Black people.
> >
> >> We can't erase our past.  Things happen.  Horrible things sometime.
> >
> > But we do erase our past when it conflicts with, say, the White
> Narrative -- as I;
> > 've pointed out in both the TEC "Reconciliation" and the national
> political "Reconciliation."
> >
> > Neither represented any reconciliation with either freemen or former
> slaves, for example -- they only represent "feel good" stuff for the White
> Majority ever since. In short -- that post Civil Ware "Reconciliation" is
> White Privilege fraud.
> >
> > As for purging -- well, the story of St John's Fort Hamilton may be of
> interest -- "The Church of the Generals." As the size of the congregation
> dwindled, and as they survived in large measure through a "management fee"
> for a city-funded feeding program, they were sure they could continue their
> course as a private club because "This is the Historic Church of the
> Generals -- most famous of which was Gen. Robert E. Lee."
> >
> > In the end after the city withdrew from the program, when they couldn't
> afford the electric bill anymore, the Diocese of Long Island closed it
> (merging with my own parish, Christ Church Bay Ridge).
> >
> > None of that "heritage" baloney could save them. The diocese did not
> have the cash to subsidize their private club and the memory of Robert E
> Lee's time in Brooklyn.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jim Guthrie
> >
> >
> >
>


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