[Magdalen] Whoops. We've got the Southern slavers' battle flag in the National Cathedral.

[Grace Cangialosi]

Yes, and that church in Lexington is referred to by the locals as "St. Bobby's"!

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:43 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> He has a very nice sarcophagus in his chapel in Lexington (VA), and the
> whole family is interred there.  When I was there (worst mistake I ever
> made) A direct descendant (also a Bob Lee) was in my class.
> 
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I didn't know Lee was ever in Brooklyn!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 6:08 PM, "Jim Guthrie" <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Jon Egger
>>> 
>>>> Things (and this thread) remind me of the "fighting bishop" (Leonidas
>>>> Polk?) who is memorialized at our seminary at Sewanee.  Do we remove him
>>>> from the seminary?  Do we simply forget him?
>>> 
>>> No -- but at the same time the interpretive information has to relate
>> the consequences, for, say, persons of color. Not to mention the poor
>> Whites who fought in order to keep their marginal economic existence at
>> least slightly higher than Black people.
>>> 
>>>> We can't erase our past.  Things happen.  Horrible things sometime.
>>> 
>>> But we do erase our past when it conflicts with, say, the White
>> Narrative -- as I;
>>> 've pointed out in both the TEC "Reconciliation" and the national
>> political "Reconciliation."
>>> 
>>> Neither represented any reconciliation with either freemen or former
>> slaves, for example -- they only represent "feel good" stuff for the White
>> Majority ever since. In short -- that post Civil Ware "Reconciliation" is
>> White Privilege fraud.
>>> 
>>> As for purging -- well, the story of St John's Fort Hamilton may be of
>> interest -- "The Church of the Generals." As the size of the congregation
>> dwindled, and as they survived in large measure through a "management fee"
>> for a city-funded feeding program, they were sure they could continue their
>> course as a private club because "This is the Historic Church of the
>> Generals -- most famous of which was Gen. Robert E. Lee."
>>> 
>>> In the end after the city withdrew from the program, when they couldn't
>> afford the electric bill anymore, the Diocese of Long Island closed it
>> (merging with my own parish, Christ Church Bay Ridge).
>>> 
>>> None of that "heritage" baloney could save them. The diocese did not
>> have the cash to subsidize their private club and the memory of Robert E
>> Lee's time in Brooklyn.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jim Guthrie
>>