[Magdalen] Here We Go Again.

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Every page should have watermarked across the entire page: "DRAFT".

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Charlie Price, one of the editors and contributors to the 1979 BCP (The
> General Thanksgiving on p. 833 was the best known of his contributions and
> parts of Eucharistic Prayer C),
> once said that the biggest mistake we made was not putting a date on the
> front of the BCP, as we do with the hymnal.
> He said putting a date on the front helps people realize that the book
> wasn't always the way it is now and will, in fact, change over time.
>
> It was fifty years between revisions last time, which was one reason there
> was such turmoil over it.
>
> I'd love to see us move in the direction of the New Zealand PB. It's not
> authorized for our Sunday use, but many clergy use it for the Daily Office
> or for midweek and other more informal services.
> As for the hymnal, some churches have folks juggling between three books
> now, sometimes in the same service! When I can select the music, I make it
> a point to use just one book for the entire service. It would be nice to
> have one book with more variety, especially for smaller churches that can't
> afford more than one set.
>
> > On Jul 4, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dare I suggest it's about time for this revision?  Both publications are
> over a generation old.  The 17th century revisers of the BCP recognized
> that words change their normal meaning (and I would add associations) over
> time so periodic revision of the language of our liturgy is advisable.
> >
> > Such a revision would also bring the opportunity to reflect the broader
> understanding of the Church and the world that applies now than was the
> case when the 1979 edition was promulgated.  There have been some good new
> hymns wriutten in the past 30 years (and some dire ones to be fair) so some
> churches have a separate supplemental hymnal or include the text of a new
> hymn in the service bulletin. When I was in the US last month I noticed in
> one church a separate book of hymns in the African-American tradition . Is
> that what is wanted todayor have them in one book so you can choose between
> different styles in the same service?
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >> On 04/07/2015 08:55, Cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
> >> >From the final GC release of the "Living Church" magazine.
> >> (Yes; I still subscribe!):
> >>    _Planning for BCP Revision_
> >> (
> http://livingchurch.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=7ced8d836c23908f3154a3db7&id=93110ead85&e=e6bae77766
> )
> >> By G.  Jeffrey MacDonald
> >> The Standing Commission on Liturgy and Music will prepare a  plan for a
> >> comprehensive revision of the 1979 Book of Common Prayer.
> >>
> >> The  House of Deputies concurred with the House of Bishops on Thursday
> to
> >> begin the  process, which could lead to a revision that would “utilize
> the
> >> riches of our  Church’s liturgical, cultural, racial, generational,
> >> linguistic, gender and  ethnic diversity in order to share common
> worship.”
> >> David Strang.
> >
>