[Magdalen] Here We Go Again.
Grace Cangialosi
gracecan at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 22:51:54 UTC 2015
How about the Holy Spirit in the Nicene Creed? A few years ago I heard someone in a congregation substitute "she" in that part of the Creed...there are just two instances of the pronoun. I tried very quietly experimenting with that, but not if I was leading worship. I decided I liked it and continued that private practice. Then I was blown away a few months ago when I attended a midweek Eucharist/healing service. The priest, a man who is generally more conservative than I, used the feminine pronouns for the Holy Spirit in leading the Creed.
I asked him about it later, and he said he had just decided to do it sometime before, without making a big deal out of it, and some people had joined him, and some hadn't.
Of course, using the phrase "the Lord, the giver of life," with feminine pronouns does feel a bit odd...
On July 6, 2015, at 6:00 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm. I heard it just a couple weeks ago. I was the only one I heard to say
"Her".
I thought most people ignore this stuff today. Mind you I don't say
whether they should or not, but I just don't get the impression they worry
about it.
After all, we all know God is beyond gender and using the male pronoun is
better than saying "give It thanks and praise," which suggests the FSM or
some other, uh, entity.
James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**” -- *Leonard Nimoy
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:41 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
> I bet it's been twenty years or more since I've heard someone read/say
>
> It is right to give him thanks and praise.
>
> These changes are in the works. In the pews.
> -M
>
>
> On Monday, July 6, 2015, Raewynne Whiteley <raewynne1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And my other basic wish is to remove gendered language for people in the
> > BCP - a minor change, but way way way overdue. It would be nice to have
> a
> > much wider range of metaphors for God as well, rather than the dominant
> > male ones, but let's start with people.
>
>
>
> > > > I subscribe to the USA Prayer Book Society's "Mandate"
> > > > periodical.
> >
>
> There used to be a local publication called Mandate. It had nothing to
> do with the BCP, but was a classified service. Men seeking men.
>
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