[Magdalen] Scripture Study Redux
Grace Cangialosi
gracecan at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 21:13:15 UTC 2015
That's funny, Jay, because it reminds me of that question asked in response to something that should be self-evident: "Is the Pope Catholic?" I guess there are some folks now who would not find the answer self-evident!
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 4:42 PM,ndmy Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh good grief, they're ALL over there? They probably all think Pope Francis
> isn't Catholic enough, too.
>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM, AT&T <jhandsfield at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thomas swam the Tiber.
>>
>> Jim Handsfield
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed. What "faith" does Roberts claim to practice? I've forgotten. I
>> know
>>> Scalia and Alito are dinosaur Catholics, and I believe Thomas belongs to
>>> one of the AMIA outfits.
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote, “Unfortunately, people of faith
>>>> can take no comfort in the treatment they receive from the majority
>> today.”
>>>>
>>>> As a person of faith, I resent that he assumptiously speaks for me.
>>>>
>>>> Grace, peace, and grrr,
>>>> brud
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Learn something new every day -- the Scripture passages used against
>> LGBT
>>>>> people are called "Clobber Passages."
>>>>>
>>>>> From the moment the Supreme Court ruled last month in favor of a
>>>>> constitutional right to same-sex marriage, opponents placed the
>> decision
>>>> in
>>>>> a very specific analytical frame. Here, they contended, was an
>> egregious
>>>>> example of secular culture triumphing over religious values and
>> religious
>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>
>>>>> “Profoundly immoral and unjust,” the United States Conference of
>> Catholic
>>>>> Bishops said in a statement. The Orthodox Union, the national
>> association
>>>>> of Orthodox Jewish congregations, declared its “emphatic” and
>>>> “unalterable”
>>>>> religious opposition to same-sex marriage. The prominent evangelist
>>>>> Franklin Graham reiterated that God had created marriage between man
>> and
>>>>> woman and said, “His decisions are not subject to review or revision by
>>>> any
>>>>> man-made court.”
>>>>>
>>>>> In the dissenting opinions in the 5-to-4 vote, justices seemed to
>>>>> anticipate the battles to come over adherence to the law by individuals
>>>> and
>>>>> institutions that doctrinally oppose same-sex marriage. Justice
>> Clarence
>>>>> Thomas noted the “potentially ruinous consequences for religious
>>>> liberty,”
>>>>> while Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote, “Unfortunately, people
>> of
>>>>> faith can take no comfort in the treatment they receive from the
>> majority
>>>>> today.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet the discussion of secularism versus religion is incomplete. It
>>>> ignores
>>>>> or elides the growing number of theologians and religious scholars in a
>>>>> range of faiths who, over a half-century, have been assembling and
>>>>> espousing scriptural arguments in favor of gay rights and ultimately
>>>>> marriage equality. The debate about same-sex marriage that has gotten
>> too
>>>>> little attention is the intrareligious one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well worth the read at:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/push-within-religions-for-gay-marriage-gets-little-attention.htmlCheers
>>>>> ,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> "The enemy isn’t liberalism;
>>>>> the enemy isn’t conservatism.
>>>>> The enemy, is baloney." - Lars Erik Nelson
>>
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