[Magdalen] BSA
Jay Weigel
jay.weigel at gmail.com
Wed Jul 29 15:27:59 UTC 2015
That's because people don't vote! Sad, but true.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Some of the countries that have had women lead them also have had more
> women in other roles we still see as male-dominated. There's no reason
> to think a woman could not step up to what is required of a president,
> nor to think she wouldn't endure what comes her way as president. Yet
> in the USA the unjustifiable attitude is still out there that a man is
> somehow stronger and more stable to handle that tough job.
>
> In some ways I think the USA electorate is less ready for a woman as
> president than ever. For starters, half of the electorate has gone
> insane. I'm not optimistic.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's JONI Ernst, and she gives me the shudders. The way the U.S.
> political
> > system is run, the chances for women to be leaders aren't really
> wonderful.
> > However there are some good ones on the Democratic side, which you failed
> > to mention. Elizabeth Warren, Tammy Duckworth, and Patty Murray come
> > immediately to mind. They probably all need just a bit more time in
> grade,
> > as do some of the real up-and-comers like Tulsi Gabbard and Mazie Hirono.
> > It'll be awhile before we get to where Norway or Iceland have been
> though.
> > Even India and Pakistan are ahead of us on this one.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 29/07/2015 00:15, Grace Cangialosi wrote:
> >>
> >> This is a fascinating thread. Can someone explain to me why we've never
> >>> had a woman president in the US, when there are so many countries that
> have
> >>> them >(or prime ministers) or have had them, and nobody batted an eye?
> >>> What is it about our history and culture that has mitigated against
> that?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Judy Ernst for President? How about giving Carly Fiorina a chance to do
> >> for the nation what she did for Compaq and HP?
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that women were not eligible during most of America's
> >> history.
> >>
> >> How many women ever aspired to the smoke-filled rooms where candidates
> >> were pretty much chosen until the 1970s? And how many women had
> successful
> >> Governorships, or became Senators other than through death of a Senator
> >> Husband (Margaret Chase Smith, Maureen Neuberger) and thus grained the
> >> perceived gravitas? I realize there was a boomlet for a Smith campaign
> for
> >> the Presidency in 1964, but highly unlikely in the GOP of Scranton,
> >> Rockefeller and Goldwater.
> >>
> >> Of course,women own most of the wealth in the United States (and have
> >> since at least the 1950s --even a significant portion of the 1%)-- but
> >> there's no evidence that women care enough about that to try to make a
> >> difference in business. Heck, the majority of women seem to take the
> >> Barbie approach and cede actual control of their wealth to men.
> >>
> >> Given that, why would anyone think there's long term influence in the
> >> modern money-driven political environment to really push for women
> leaders?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Scott R. Knitter
> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>
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