[Magdalen] She's leaving church

[Lynn Ronkainen]

An important realization for me many years ago in re the bible - truth does 
not have to be fact.
Lynn

My email has changed to: houstonKLR at gmail.com

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck

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From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 8:25 PM
To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] She's leaving church

> I have found Borg's book on faith ("Convictions") to be very
> thought-provoking.  One thing he was good at elucidating is how we believe
> scripture without thinking that the text has historicity. It's one of the
> strengths of TEC that we believe scripture but not in its historicity.
>
> He even brings up that wonderful comment made prior to telling a sacred
> tale:
> "I don't if it happened this way, but I know that this story is true."
>
> Genesis is true -- but it is not a history text, not a science tutorial.
> Its subject matter is something entirely different and arguably more
> important.
>
> The Redactor did not accidentally put the Priestly text on creation right
> next to the J strand text on creation; he wanted to dramatize the nature 
> of
> God by putting the two sources next to each other.  Yes, God is infinite
> and awesome, and yet God is intimate and personal.  Focus on either of
> those attributes and you have nothing.  Force yourself to focus as best
> your can on both of these simultaneously, and you just might get at a 
> sense
> of the God Barth says we cannot imagine.  I do not think anyone anytime
> anyplace has done a better job of driving that point home, and without
> that, it's hard to do much of anything else, so the Redactor was wise to
> put right at the beginning.
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Um, actually, I pretty much do believe it. The timing's way off,
>> of course, but you have to ask: what *is* a single day in God's
>> time?
>>
>> Our days are defined quite parochially (sunrise/sunset, a single
>> revolution of a small but lovely planet). God's day might be a
>> revolution of the milky way. Or something else.
>>
>> As a teacher once said, "Thoughts arise. Where do they come
>> from? They pass away. Where do they go?"
>> -M
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 2, 2015, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > You're talking Creationism, and I have no problem with that.
>> >
>> > I doubt anyone on list believes in Genesis literally.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>