[Magdalen] She's leaving church

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

That would side-step the whole point of distinguishing between mere reality
and the elements of metaphysical and metaphorical.


James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Or, as I've heard it said, "Everything in this book is true. Some of it
> really happened."
>
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2015, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > An important realization for me many years ago in re the bible - truth
> > does not have to be fact.
> > Lynn
> >
> > My email has changed to: houstonKLR at gmail.com
> >
> > website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
> >
> > When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
> not
> > a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
> me."
> > attributed to Erma Bombeck
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 8:25 PM
> > To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] She's leaving church
> >
> >  I have found Borg's book on faith ("Convictions") to be very
> >> thought-provoking.  One thing he was good at elucidating is how we
> believe
> >> scripture without thinking that the text has historicity. It's one of
> the
> >> strengths of TEC that we believe scripture but not in its historicity.
> >>
> >> He even brings up that wonderful comment made prior to telling a sacred
> >> tale:
> >> "I don't if it happened this way, but I know that this story is true."
> >>
> >> Genesis is true -- but it is not a history text, not a science tutorial.
> >> Its subject matter is something entirely different and arguably more
> >> important.
> >>
> >> The Redactor did not accidentally put the Priestly text on creation
> right
> >> next to the J strand text on creation; he wanted to dramatize the nature
> >> of
> >> God by putting the two sources next to each other.  Yes, God is infinite
> >> and awesome, and yet God is intimate and personal.  Focus on either of
> >> those attributes and you have nothing.  Force yourself to focus as best
> >> your can on both of these simultaneously, and you just might get at a
> >> sense
> >> of the God Barth says we cannot imagine.  I do not think anyone anytime
> >> anyplace has done a better job of driving that point home, and without
> >> that, it's hard to do much of anything else, so the Redactor was wise to
> >> put right at the beginning.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> >> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> preserved,
> >> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Um, actually, I pretty much do believe it. The timing's way off,
> >>> of course, but you have to ask: what *is* a single day in God's
> >>> time?
> >>>
> >>> Our days are defined quite parochially (sunrise/sunset, a single
> >>> revolution of a small but lovely planet). God's day might be a
> >>> revolution of the milky way. Or something else.
> >>>
> >>> As a teacher once said, "Thoughts arise. Where do they come
> >>> from? They pass away. Where do they go?"
> >>> -M
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday, June 2, 2015, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> >>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > You're talking Creationism, and I have no problem with that.
> >>> >
> >>> > I doubt anyone on list believes in Genesis literally.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
>