[Magdalen] She's leaving church

[Jon Egger]

I've heard, and agree with, this:  "We take the Bible seriously because we
don't take it literally."

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Grace & peace,
Deacon Jon Egger



*“In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who
has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to
deceive and overawe the People."(Eugene V. Debs, Anti-War Speech, June 16,
1918) *


On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:58 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> A lot of people don't see themselves as broken, so they don't see a need.
>
> Saying, "Well, they should!" is not going to make a tinker's spit's worth
> of difference.
>
> Which sorta gets us back to square one...
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The church is broken, full of broken people.Our last priest and this one
> > have serious flaws, but I continue to experience God and mystery in the
> > Eucharist.  And besides, I am a Cub fan, you don't have to be very good
> for
> > me too love you.  My love affair with the Episcopal Church continues.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ​
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:22 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Little children instinctively know the difference between fact and
> > truth.
> > > > -M
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd say precisely the opposite. It's due to children's different take
> on
> > > the world that we have the fairy tale versions of god to begin with,
> and
> > it
> > > is getting rid of that pov that is a stumbling block for many trying to
> > > move from childhood into adulthood, and is driving them to non-belief.
> > >  "They made up all this stuff about god; they're making the rest of it
> up
> > > too!"
> > >
> > > I hear from folks of all ages still trying to get out of that fairy
> tale
> > > mode of thinking about god.
> > >
> > > "If I thought god were like that, I wouldn't believe in It/Her/Him
> > either,"
> > > I say.
> > >
> > > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> preserved,
> > > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > >
> > > ​
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Judy Fleener, ObJN
> > Western Michigan
> >
>