[Magdalen] She's leaving church

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Wed Jun 3 22:22:53 UTC 2015


I'll buy that, Brud!

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've heard, and agree with, this:  "We take the Bible seriously because we
> don't take it literally."
>
> +++
> Grace & peace,
> Deacon Jon Egger
>
>
>
> *“In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who
> has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to
> deceive and overawe the People."(Eugene V. Debs, Anti-War Speech, June 16,
> 1918) *
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:58 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A lot of people don't see themselves as broken, so they don't see a need.
> >
> > Saying, "Well, they should!" is not going to make a tinker's spit's worth
> > of difference.
> >
> > Which sorta gets us back to square one...
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The church is broken, full of broken people.Our last priest and this
> one
> > > have serious flaws, but I continue to experience God and mystery in the
> > > Eucharist.  And besides, I am a Cub fan, you don't have to be very good
> > for
> > > me too love you.  My love affair with the Episcopal Church continues.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ​
> > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:22 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Little children instinctively know the difference between fact and
> > > truth.
> > > > > -M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd say precisely the opposite. It's due to children's different take
> > on
> > > > the world that we have the fairy tale versions of god to begin with,
> > and
> > > it
> > > > is getting rid of that pov that is a stumbling block for many trying
> to
> > > > move from childhood into adulthood, and is driving them to
> non-belief.
> > > >  "They made up all this stuff about god; they're making the rest of
> it
> > up
> > > > too!"
> > > >
> > > > I hear from folks of all ages still trying to get out of that fairy
> > tale
> > > > mode of thinking about god.
> > > >
> > > > "If I thought god were like that, I wouldn't believe in It/Her/Him
> > > either,"
> > > > I say.
> > > >
> > > > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > > > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> > preserved,
> > > > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > > >
> > > > ​
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Judy Fleener, ObJN
> > > Western Michigan
> > >
> >
>


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