[Magdalen] Am I a troll?

[Judy Fleener]

Martin, The Episcopal Church has decided these issues. It is over.  You
don't like it.  We don't want the pot of these issues continually
stirred.The gay folk on this list do not need to hear the tired arguments.
Perhaps you could give God permission to create people differently than you
can imagine, please.  This is my first and last post on this subject.
Judy

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com> wrote:

> This place is called a pub, not a discussion group. You have more
> experience of pubs than I do, but I suspect a foreigner's criticisms of the
> Queen and Commons might not be well received in a British pub. Here, we
> have the Episcopal Church and its Presiding Bishop. This pub is, I think,
> devoted to their welfare.
>
> I write these things remembering the things you brought up at StSam's and
> am giving you a friendly warning that this is not the place to repeat your
> criticisms.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 30, 2015, Zephonites--- via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>
> > Allan
> >
> > I am very sorry to hear that - genuinely.
> >
> > But does that mean therefore that I cannot have a different view to you
> on
> > gay marriages or even on marrying divorcees in Church (compared to those
> > who  won't).
> >
> > I don't say the Bible is against homosexuals. Why - because it isn't -
> and
> > this is the mistake many conservative Evangelicals have made.
> >
> > Have you seen me being nasty to you? No
> >
> > Have I called  for damnation on you and your friends am I?  No
> >
> > Why because "He who is without sin cast the first stone."
> >
> > But does this mean I have to agree with you on this issue.
> >
> > But I am happy to drop the hot potato.
> >
> > Blessings
> > Martin
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > In a message dated 30/06/2015 08:32:29 GMT Daylight Time,
> > allanc25 at gmail.com <javascript:;> writes:
> >
> > You  don't seem to understand that all of us have, personally in our
> > churches  experiienced the loss of friends
> >
> > On Monday, June 29, 2015,  Zephonites--- via Magdalen <
> > magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;>>  wrote:
> >
> > > Allan
> > >
> > > I am sorry you feel I am a troll. I  can assure you I am not. Your
> point
> > on
> > > David Virtue is heard, though  just because he writes it does not per
> se
> > > mean it  is NOT true.  After all it does seem that the California Court
> > was
> > > asked to  block  the sale of St James.(from other sources too)
> > >
> > > I  think it is reasonable to defend one's corner even if it might not
> be
> > PC
> > > to do so. You never know if we are polite and listen to each other  we
> > might
> > >  change our opinions. After all that is what Christian  discussion
> should
> > be
> > > all  about.
> > >
> > > In fact by  listening to what was taught in the summer school at St
> John
> > tow
> > >   or three years ago, I was able to clarigfy my thinking on the use of
> > the
> > > OT  today!
> > >
> > > I have actually tried to explain  where I am coming from and I have
> not -
> > I
> > > hope been rude in so doing.  After all, this line started as a question
> > > about the  sale of a  (apparently ) viable church's building as it was
> on
> > > prime
> > > real  estate  land. How it want to the other issue I don't know
> > >
> > >  The three parts of OT law are to me a reasonable position to take to
> > >  differentiate between the law on mixed fibre or eating pork ...and
> > moral
> > > law -
> > > lets say forbidding adultery or false  witness  to  go away form  the
> > more
> > > sensitive  issue)
> > >
> > > However if others feell I am a troll, I shall politely  delist myself
> > >
> > > Blessings
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > >
> >
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> > >  ----
> > >
> > > In a message dated 30/06/2015 00:10:07 GMT Daylight  Time,
> > > allanc25 at gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;> writes:
> > >
> > >  Martin,  if in the future you attempt to defend a  position by
> > providing a
> > > link  to virtueonline, all you will accomplish is  people telling you
> the
> > > source  is suspect.
> > >
> > > No one  will read the article.  I didn't because a  glance showed me
> that
> >  I
> > > had read the article five years ago.
> > >
> > > I  didn't  have a dog in this Episcopal hunt and used to read both
> > sides,
> > >  including virtueonline. I don't think I ever commented anywhere
> >  online.
> > >
> > > Martin, I think you're Internet trolling and people  here will  not put
> > up
> > > with it for long. So, please leave the  past  alone.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Allan   Carr
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Allan  Carr
> >
> >
>
> --
> Allan Carr
>



-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN
Western Michigan