[Magdalen] whose theology is this?

[Ginga Wilder]

Marion,
I know that but DAMN.  Not fun today.

Thank you,
Ginga

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ginga, it will take you quite a while to heal completely, from deep inside
> out, after the trauma of those long years.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim   ... today my sail I lift ....
>
> On 3/1/2015 5:43 PM, Ginga Wilder wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Eleanor and Marion.  I am realizing that this man's teaching
>> has
>> retraumatized me.  I honestly thought I had moved on from the awful abuse
>> rendered upon Episcopalians during the early 90s through 2012 in South
>> Carolina.  Whew!  Breathing in, breathing out.
>>
>> Ginga
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Eleanor Braun <eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I do not understand the notion of only helping the neighbor we can see or
>>> who lives near us.
>>>
>>> Jesus tells the parable of the Good Samaritan in response to the lawyer's
>>> question, who is my neighbor.  Now there are many ways to interpret the
>>> parable, but it speaks to me in a way that says my neighbor is everyone,
>>> even the "other", the despised ones.
>>>
>>> It is unconscionable to me to suggest that those of us in the US and the
>>> West, who have so much, should *only* be concerned about those across the
>>> street.  When there is such a crying need for basic medical care,
>>> education, clean water and sanitation, and basic food security, we must
>>> care as much for our neighbor in Honduras, in Sierra Leone, and in India
>>> as
>>> we do for those in our zip code.
>>>
>>> As for not concerning ourselves with politics, I also disagree.  In order
>>> to satisfy the mandates of Matthew 25, we can do some of it through
>>> charity, but we cannot make a substantive difference until we change the
>>> structure of society so that all may enjoy God's abundance.
>>>
>>> Readings:  Ezekiel 34: 2-3 <http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=292248538>
>>> Isaiah
>>> 10:1-3 <http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=292248653>
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Our supply clergy this morning was from another diocese...a very liberal
>>>> diocese....but I don't think this is liberal thought.  He taught Adult
>>>> CE
>>>> and preached.
>>>>
>>>> His premise this morning, among other things was that 'we really cannot
>>>> change the world.  We do not need to concern ourselves with the world
>>>> beyond our neighborhood.  Rather than give money to support ministries
>>>>
>>> like
>>>
>>>> ERD, we should simply walk across the street and meet the need of our
>>>> neighbor.  (His example was giving money to a particular person in a 3rd
>>>> world country, rather than my ERD example, but the point is the same.)
>>>>
>>> He
>>>
>>>> went on to declare that from a theological perspective, we do not need
>>>> to
>>>> concern ourselves with politics...or even care about politics because we
>>>> cannot make a difference or change the world.  It was a one way
>>>> street...meet the need before you and ignore/don't care about anything
>>>> beyond.
>>>>
>>>> I behaved badly.  He spoke down to us as of we were the Episcopal
>>>>
>>> bumpkins
>>>
>>>> in SC and I called him on it.  Now I'm having a major shame attack, even
>>>> though more than a few people thanked me....that has just made it worse
>>>> because my behavior was so similar to how nack in the mid 2000s, I
>>>> confronted the the teaching of the ultra conservative priests at St.
>>>> Paul's.  I'm not sure this makes any sense and I am still upset.
>>>>
>>>> So, what think the theological gurus in the pub (all of us) about this
>>>> theology??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ginga
>>>>
>>>>
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