[Magdalen] prayers for my former parish

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 21:57:42 UTC 2015


Oh, probably.....the one who made the FB post is now telling people to "let
the church's leadership know". He doesn't even live in the town any more!

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:

> ... and it might be his 'friends' who invited him to make his offer...
> behind the scenes, of course
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> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
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> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:28 PM
> To: "magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] prayers for my former parish
>
>
>  Looking back over your original post, Jay, I think this will quite likely
>> sort itself out.  If the bishop has appointed a PIC instead of having them
>> get an interim, he's probably aware of the needs there.  And they could go
>> from a PIC directly to a rector without an interim, should the bishop
>> choose.  The PIC could also be called as the rector after a time, if the
>> congregation wanted him.  But the PIC serves entirely at the pleasure of
>> the bishop and for as long as the bishop wants, generally with a renewable
>> contract period. In our diocese a PIC is generally expected to be in place
>> for 3-5 years.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I'm hoping not! I think it would be a disaster on all fronts. I'm already
>>> seeing posts where people are saying that "if this doesn't happen because
>>> of church politics I'll rethink my membership" etc. etc. but those are
>>> from
>>> the guy's old buddies.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Jay, I don't know the policy in TN, but I can't imagine that the bishop
>>> > would permit this. Interim positions here have to have the approval of
>>> the
>>> > bishop; they don't just happen because someone "offers their services."
>>> >
>>> > On March 2, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I have just learned via a Facebook post that a former rector of the
>>> parish
>>> > I belonged to in Tennessee for many years has offered to serve as >
>>> interim
>>> > for a year. Now this may be seen by some as a gracious offer, but >
>>> IMNSHO
>>> it
>>> > is extremely self-serving. The place is currently apparently in a huge
>>> mess
>>> > both financially and spiritually following the departure of the >
>>> previous
>>> > rector, and AFAIK has a priest-in-charge appointed by the bishop rather
>>> > than an interim. (I'm not totally up on church politics, but this is
>>> what I
>>> > gleaned on my last visit there on the occasion of my late ex's >
>>> memorial.)
>>> > The PIC is a very nice guy. Also some of my old friends, who were
>>> seriously
>>> > wounded by the previous rector now offering his services but soldiered
>>> > faithfully on, are currently on the vestry.
>>> >
>>> > I don't know what the protocol for such a thing is, but I think it is a
>>> > Very Bad Idea. The guy IMNSHO has a serious Napoleon complex (yes, he
>>> > is
>>> a
>>> > short little dude and he *really* likes to throw his weight around)
>>> and > I
>>> > honestly believe he sees himself as riding in on a white horse to >
>>> "save"
>>> > the place. I know there is a certain faction within the parish that >
>>> would
>>> > just LOVE to see him back (he left to become headmaster of an Episcopal
>>> > school in NC) but I also know that there are others who might very well
>>> > leave, and I strongly suspect that it would keep my daughter and her
>>> family
>>> > from returning, or that they will be among those leaving. I am devoutly
>>> > hoping that God, the bishop, and the vestry will say no. In any case,
>>> > prayers are requested for All Saints,' Morristown, TN.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Grace Cangialosi
>> Ruckersville, VA
>>
>> It's a good thing Mary didn't have to wait for a Doctrine of the
>> Incarnation
>> before she said "Yes" to God.
>>
>
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