[Magdalen] prayers for my former parish

Lynn Ronkainen houstonklr at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 21:45:46 UTC 2015


... and it might be his 'friends' who invited him to make his offer... 
behind the scenes, of course
L

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From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:28 PM
To: "magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] prayers for my former parish

> Looking back over your original post, Jay, I think this will quite likely
> sort itself out.  If the bishop has appointed a PIC instead of having them
> get an interim, he's probably aware of the needs there.  And they could go
> from a PIC directly to a rector without an interim, should the bishop
> choose.  The PIC could also be called as the rector after a time, if the
> congregation wanted him.  But the PIC serves entirely at the pleasure of
> the bishop and for as long as the bishop wants, generally with a renewable
> contract period. In our diocese a PIC is generally expected to be in place
> for 3-5 years.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm hoping not! I think it would be a disaster on all fronts. I'm already
>> seeing posts where people are saying that "if this doesn't happen because
>> of church politics I'll rethink my membership" etc. etc. but those are 
>> from
>> the guy's old buddies.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Jay, I don't know the policy in TN, but I can't imagine that the bishop
>> > would permit this. Interim positions here have to have the approval of
>> the
>> > bishop; they don't just happen because someone "offers their services."
>> >
>> > On March 2, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have just learned via a Facebook post that a former rector of the
>> parish
>> > I belonged to in Tennessee for many years has offered to serve as 
>> > interim
>> > for a year. Now this may be seen by some as a gracious offer, but 
>> > IMNSHO
>> it
>> > is extremely self-serving. The place is currently apparently in a huge
>> mess
>> > both financially and spiritually following the departure of the 
>> > previous
>> > rector, and AFAIK has a priest-in-charge appointed by the bishop rather
>> > than an interim. (I'm not totally up on church politics, but this is
>> what I
>> > gleaned on my last visit there on the occasion of my late ex's 
>> > memorial.)
>> > The PIC is a very nice guy. Also some of my old friends, who were
>> seriously
>> > wounded by the previous rector now offering his services but soldiered
>> > faithfully on, are currently on the vestry.
>> >
>> > I don't know what the protocol for such a thing is, but I think it is a
>> > Very Bad Idea. The guy IMNSHO has a serious Napoleon complex (yes, he 
>> > is
>> a
>> > short little dude and he *really* likes to throw his weight around) and 
>> > I
>> > honestly believe he sees himself as riding in on a white horse to 
>> > "save"
>> > the place. I know there is a certain faction within the parish that 
>> > would
>> > just LOVE to see him back (he left to become headmaster of an Episcopal
>> > school in NC) but I also know that there are others who might very well
>> > leave, and I strongly suspect that it would keep my daughter and her
>> family
>> > from returning, or that they will be among those leaving. I am devoutly
>> > hoping that God, the bishop, and the vestry will say no. In any case,
>> > prayers are requested for All Saints,' Morristown, TN.
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Grace Cangialosi
> Ruckersville, VA
>
> It's a good thing Mary didn't have to wait for a Doctrine of the
> Incarnation
> before she said "Yes" to God. 



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