[Magdalen] More Clergy DWI

[Raewynne Whiteley]

Note, I didn't write the stuff about Republicans - that was from David
Strang.  Google just made it seem that way...

Raewynne

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com> wrote:

> raewynne1 at gmail.com writes:
>
>  The socioeconomic makeup of USA Episcopalians has changed
>> through the years.  It used to be that Episcopalians were "the  Republican
>> Party at prayer", but there has been a big swing in the liberal  direction
>> in recent decades.  As a result, a lot of the wealthy conservatives  have
>> packed up and gone elsewhere.  Those who remain are a notch down
>> the socioeconomic ladder.
>>
>
> Mostly nonsense. Ask the old-timers (if any are left) about the
> Republicans who led the "Republican Party at Prayer" at St James, for
> example. All were liberal Rockefeller/liberal Republicans, as were many
> others in TEC.  Huntington, Barrett, Miller to name a few who were still
> around in my time --- but you can go back long before that, too. They were
> all big fans of Jacob Javits and Ken Keating in my day -- both Republican
> liberals.
>
> You can go back a long time and find the same was true everywhere -- J. P.
> Morgan was a Republican, for example, but in addition to building hospitals
> and the like, as Warden of St George's in NYC, made sure there were liberal
> -- even radical -- Rectors installed.
>
> There are, to be sure, conservatives who’ve left -- but I'm sure that if
> you, say, look at the situation in South Carolina, you'll find that most of
> those who've left in favor of the schismatics were once Democrats --  as
> were conservatives throughout the South. Republicans there were the party
> of African-Americans and Liberals back in the day. And just because there
> were well-meaning efforts to integrate parishes, we, essentially, kicked
> the people of color out of TEC>
>
> In short, the "Republican Party at Prayer" has no relationship to today's
> Republicans.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie
>
>