[Magdalen] Lubitz.
Christopher Hart
cervus51 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 18:22:45 UTC 2015
I've been staying out of this discussion largely because I can see both
sides, but wacko and retard seem to me to be of a totally different
nature/degree. Retard was a widely used/accepted term for the mentally
challenged when I was growing up. We have learned to be more sensitive to
such persons whose challenges are not of their own making. I would not use
the term wacko to simply describe a person with other mental health issues
either, but I willingly use it to describe persons whose beliefs/attitudes
I consider ludicrous (e.g. Ted Cruz) whether or NOT they are are diagnosed
with mental health issues. Anyone who is willing to kill 150 people in a
single act qualifies IMNSHO.
On Sunday, March 29, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Allan,
> I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, just with the use of the
> term "wacko." To me that trivializes and ridicules what is a tragic illness.
> It's like calling someone who is developmentally challenged a "retard."
>
> YMMV, of course.
>
> > On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.comke > wrote:
> >
> > If he hadn't been mentally iill, he wouldn't have have murdered 150
> people.
> > I've had three depressed people in my family commit suicide. It happens,
> > and should not be ignored in a pilot's evaluation out of political
> > correctness. As in this case, many lives may be at stake. Don't their
> lives
> > matter?
> >
> >> On Saturday, March 28, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> So "mentally Ill" = "wacko"
> >> Got it.
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> With all respect, someone who deliberately flies an airplane with 150
> >>> people in it into a mountain is fully wacko according to the several
> >>> dictionaries I've just read "A person regarded as eccentric or
> >> irrational:"
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> David,
> >>>> With all due respect, I cringed at your description of Lubitz as a
> >> "wacko
> >>>> copilot."
> >>>> If the emerging reports are correct, he appears to have had a history
> >> of
> >>>> depression, which is a disease that can have tragic consequences for
> the
> >>>> individual and those around him/her, as we have seen again and again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Responsible for his actions? Yes. Irresponsible in tearing up doctor's
> >>>> notes and hiding his illness? Yes.
> >>>> "Wacko"? No. Tragic would be more apt, I think.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> >>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have been curious about this name, so I did some checking.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since Poland and Germany have been side by side and there has
> >>>>> been much flip-flop of boundaries between them through the centuries,
> >>>>> it's no surprise that there are German names that have been used by
> >>>>> families who are Polish for centuries, and vice versa.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is probably the case with the wacko copilot of the recent plane
> >>>> crash
> >>>>> in the French Alps. His name has a Slavic ending "itz" which is the
> >>>>> German/Polish equivalent of -icz, -ich, and -age. These are all
> >> Slavic
> >>>>> endings that roughly equate to "son of" (Who can forget blonde beauty
> >>>>> newscaster Jessica Savage?).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Despite the Slavic origin of the "itz" names, the "itz" did not
> hinder
> >>>> the
> >>>>> career of the famous Admiral Doenitz before and during WW-2.
> >>>>> He was Commander in Chief of the German Navy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then there was the second German warship of the Bismarck Class,
> >>>>> the Tirpitz - "The Lonely Queen of the North" - also named after a
> >>>>> German Admiral who commanded the German Navy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A lot of history is buried in our names.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Strang.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Allan Carr
> >
> >
> > --
> > Allan Carr
>
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Christopher Hart
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