[Magdalen] Lubitz.
Allan Carr
allanc25 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 20:22:23 UTC 2015
It would have been quite trivial to come up with sarcasms concerning
Grace's views and to put them in her mouth the way she did with me. It's
nothing new here and I try not to do it. Anyway, I was born in 1931 and
this generational conflict is nothing new.
Since I'd never heard these words in my youth or even as a young adult, I
looked up these two words, wacko and retard, in the Online Dictionary of
Etymology. Wacko came into being in 1971 when I was 30 and retard in1970.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com
> wrote:
> Poor Allan, every infrequent time he ventures into the Pub, there's always
> someone to smack him down. I think his own tragic family experience and
> long-life experience should inform us that it is not his intention to
> trvialize or ridicule.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim
>
>
> On 3/29/2015 10:09 AM, Grace Cangialosi wrote:
>
>> Allan,
>> I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, just with the use of the
>> term "wacko." To me that trivializes and ridicules what is a tragic illness.
>> It's like calling someone who is developmentally challenged a "retard."
>>
>> YMMV, of course.
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.comke > wrote:
>>>
>>> If he hadn't been mentally iill, he wouldn't have have murdered 150
>>> people.
>>> I've had three depressed people in my family commit suicide. It happens,
>>> and should not be ignored in a pilot's evaluation out of political
>>> correctness. As in this case, many lives may be at stake. Don't their
>>> lives
>>> matter?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So "mentally Ill" = "wacko"
>>>> Got it.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With all respect, someone who deliberately flies an airplane with 150
>>>>> people in it into a mountain is fully wacko according to the several
>>>>> dictionaries I've just read "A person regarded as eccentric or
>>>>>
>>>> irrational:"
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>> With all due respect, I cringed at your description of Lubitz as a
>>>>>>
>>>>> "wacko
>>>>
>>>>> copilot."
>>>>>> If the emerging reports are correct, he appears to have had a history
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> depression, which is a disease that can have tragic consequences for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> individual and those around him/her, as we have seen again and again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Responsible for his actions? Yes. Irresponsible in tearing up doctor's
>>>>>> notes and hiding his illness? Yes.
>>>>>> "Wacko"? No. Tragic would be more apt, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been curious about this name, so I did some checking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since Poland and Germany have been side by side and there has
>>>>>>> been much flip-flop of boundaries between them through the centuries,
>>>>>>> it's no surprise that there are German names that have been used by
>>>>>>> families who are Polish for centuries, and vice versa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is probably the case with the wacko copilot of the recent plane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in the French Alps. His name has a Slavic ending "itz" which is the
>>>>>>> German/Polish equivalent of -icz, -ich, and -age. These are all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Slavic
>>>>
>>>>> endings that roughly equate to "son of" (Who can forget blonde beauty
>>>>>>> newscaster Jessica Savage?).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Despite the Slavic origin of the "itz" names, the "itz" did not
>>>>>>> hinder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> career of the famous Admiral Doenitz before and during WW-2.
>>>>>>> He was Commander in Chief of the German Navy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there was the second German warship of the Bismarck Class,
>>>>>>> the Tirpitz - "The Lonely Queen of the North" - also named after a
>>>>>>> German Admiral who commanded the German Navy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of history is buried in our names.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Strang.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Allan Carr
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Allan Carr
>>>
>> .
>>
>>
>
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Allan Carr
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