[Magdalen] Lubitz.

Esther Williamson momohl1 at cox.net
Mon Mar 30 17:44:55 UTC 2015


Marian the Peacemaker,

I am always impressed with your ability to 'make nice', 'cut to the 
chase', and smooth things over. You have such a wonderful and calming 
way about you. You are good for this list.

Esther



On 3/29/2015 3:30 PM, Marion Thompson wrote:
> Poor Allan, every infrequent time he ventures into the Pub, there's 
> always someone to smack him down.  I think his own tragic family 
> experience and long-life experience should inform us that it is not 
> his intention to trvialize or ridicule.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim
>
> On 3/29/2015 10:09 AM, Grace Cangialosi wrote:
>> Allan,
>> I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, just with the use of 
>> the term "wacko." To me that trivializes and ridicules what is a 
>> tragic illness.
>> It's like calling someone who is developmentally challenged a "retard."
>>
>> YMMV, of course.
>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.comke > wrote:
>>>
>>> If he hadn't been mentally iill, he wouldn't have have murdered 150 
>>> people.
>>> I've had three depressed people in my family commit suicide. It 
>>> happens,
>>> and should not be ignored in a pilot's evaluation out of political
>>> correctness. As in this case, many lives may be at stake. Don't 
>>> their lives
>>> matter?
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So "mentally Ill" = "wacko"
>>>> Got it.
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With all respect, someone who deliberately flies an airplane with 150
>>>>> people in it into a mountain is fully wacko according to the several
>>>>> dictionaries I've just read "A person regarded as eccentric or
>>>> irrational:"
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>> With all due respect, I cringed at your description of Lubitz as a
>>>> "wacko
>>>>>> copilot."
>>>>>> If the emerging reports are correct, he  appears to have had a 
>>>>>> history
>>>> of
>>>>>> depression, which is a disease that can have tragic consequences 
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> individual and those around him/her, as we have seen again and 
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Responsible for his actions? Yes. Irresponsible in tearing up 
>>>>>> doctor's
>>>>>> notes and hiding his illness? Yes.
>>>>>> "Wacko"? No.  Tragic would be more apt, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>>>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been curious about this name, so I did some checking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since Poland and Germany have been side by side and there has
>>>>>>> been much flip-flop of boundaries between them through the 
>>>>>>> centuries,
>>>>>>> it's no surprise that there are German names that have been used by
>>>>>>> families who are Polish for centuries, and vice versa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is probably the case with the wacko copilot of the recent 
>>>>>>> plane
>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>> in the French Alps.  His name has a Slavic ending "itz" which 
>>>>>>> is  the
>>>>>>> German/Polish equivalent of -icz, -ich, and -age. These are all
>>>> Slavic
>>>>>>> endings that roughly equate to "son of" (Who can forget blonde 
>>>>>>> beauty
>>>>>>> newscaster Jessica Savage?).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Despite the Slavic origin of the "itz" names, the "itz" did not  
>>>>>>> hinder
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> career of the famous Admiral Doenitz before and during WW-2.
>>>>>>> He was Commander in Chief of the German Navy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there was the second German warship of the Bismarck Class,
>>>>>>> the Tirpitz - "The Lonely Queen of the North" - also named after a
>>>>>>> German Admiral who commanded the German Navy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of history is buried in our names.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Strang.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Allan Carr
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Allan Carr
>> .
>>
>



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